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Subject: Re: Dimingo's Yearly income
From: tom ponti <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Sat, 1 Dec 2018 15:27:12 +0000
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GREAT POST!
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From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Kiwi <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2018 8:41 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] Dimingo's Yearly income

Wow!  Way to warp a discussion and ignore the primary issue.

No one has said Domingo should retire and disappear because he's been around
for so long.  NO ONE.

The concern is he isn't a baritone--no matter how forgiving his fan boys
are--and yet a certain portion of the opera-going population is more than
willing to settle for a tenor singing in the wrong role simply because it is
Domingo.

The man can stay active in opera--he's in charge of an opera company, for
goodness sakes;  he can do concerts up the wazoo;  he can introduce new
works where his voice may still function with role integrity.    He has his
Operalia to manage and star in.

The issue, which apparently you guys can't quite grasp, is even though he is
being hired and he is selling seats, he can't really sing the roles and yet
you continue to defend him as if he can.  If Mickey wanted to change
positions and become catcher, sure, the fans might still show up but could
he do it, especially late in his career when his knees may have given out?

If FDR wanted to become stop being president to become chief justice of the
Supreme Court, well, he just might have been a great one but he had no law
degree.

If Toscanini wanted to step off the podium to play piccolo in an orchestra,
his contribution may have been accepted but would it have been good?

You folks are distorting the discussion by entering into the ridiculous
zone.

The focus is not so much whether Domingo CAN do something simply because he
doesn't embarrass you but whether he should.  The obvious answer is sure,
because folks like you continue to flock to his performances even though he
isn't really singing the roles they way they should be sung and the
corollary is that since he is making money for the house, he will continue
to be indulged.

And no, it really isn't about him depriving a job opportunity from others;
it's about (here's the thing) integrity and appropriateness--something most
people on this list do actually raise as issues with other singers.  And no
#2, it isn't really because he isn't a train wreck so all can be forgiven.
And no# 3, it isn't really because he sells seats for an opera, because that
is just personality cult.





-----Original Message-----
From: rjcardinalli
Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2018 2:20 AM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Dimingo's Yearly income

FDR, Queen Elizabeth II, Toscanini and George Abbott, to start with?  The
world  and the younger generation suffered at the hands of their
professional longevity.  Disgraceful, clinging as they did by their
fingernails to power and fame.


Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
-------- Original message --------From: Mike Hetsko <[log in to unmask]> Date:
01/12/2018  07:42  (GMT+02:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re:
Dimingo's Yearly income
Mickey Mantle play baseball too long. He kept those in the minor leagues
from moving up. Letís see, who else stayed at the party to long?


~Mike Hetsko

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