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Subject: Re: Dimingo's Yearly income
From: Andrew Moravcsik <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Sat, 1 Dec 2018 13:04:50 +0000
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All  those great minor league Verdi baritones we read about on opera-l waiting to break into the big leagueóbut for Placido?

Andrew Moravcsik

> On Dec 1, 2018, at 02:21, rjcardinalli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> FDR, Queen Elizabeth II, Toscanini and George Abbott, to start with?  The world  and the younger generation suffered at the hands of their professional longevity.  Disgraceful, clinging as they did by their fingernails to power and fame. 
> 
> 
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
> -------- Original message --------From: Mike Hetsko <[log in to unmask]> Date: 01/12/2018  07:42  (GMT+02:00) To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: Dimingo's Yearly income 
> Mickey Mantle play baseball too long. He kept those in the minor leagues  from moving up. Letís see, who else stayed at the party to long?
> 
> 
> ~Mike Hetsko
> 
> (-spell check by IPhone-)
> 
> 
>>> On Nov 30, 2018, at 11:26 AM, william kasimer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 30 Nov 2018 11:44:49 +0200, Robert Cardinalli <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> This semi-annual Domingo hate thread is now a tradition on Opera-L.  Glad to
>>> see something is a tradition.
>>> 
>>> However, I am gratified that those of you who cannot find anything better to
>>> do, were also the same ones (were you not?) who slammed Regine Crespin,
>>> Leonie Rysanek, Helga Dernesch, and Astrid Varnay, among several other
>>> important post-WWII soprani, for moving to mezzo and even contralto roles
>>> when their upper register gave up the ghost.  
>> 
>> Not that I wish to prolong the agony, but there's a difference.  I may be incorrect, but to 
>> the best of my knowledge, when those ladies gave up their soprano roles, they moved into 
>> what might be called "character mezzo roles" - the Kostelnicka, Herodias in Salome, the 
>> Countess in Pikovaya Dama, Klytemnestra, and the like.  These are all "older woman" roles. 
>> 
>> Domingo doesn't have that option, as there simply aren't that many such roles for a 
>> baritone.
>> 
>> I also think that those ladies sounded just fine in the mezzo roles that they chose to sing.  
>> Domingo, not so much....  
>> 
>> Bill
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