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Subject: Re: Turandot
From: donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Thu, 6 Dec 2018 14:17:01 -0500
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You mean that there are other disgusting couples in opera?  Oh my; who knew?

It's beginning to look as though those who pronounce the T don't like this
opera
very much.   Who cares?

dtmk

On Thu, Dec 6, 2018 at 9:31 AM Paul Ricchi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Actually I cannot think of Calaf and TurandoT as anything but among the
> most disgusting couples in opera - who also have some exciting and gorgeous
> music to sing. She deserves a canine appellation; his would be porcine.
> Salome and her family are much more appealing.
>
> When the updated staging of the opera comes out the curtain will fall as
> the loving couple take duet selfies over Liu’s corpse while Timur weeps and
> the trio of clowns performs  ecstatic auto-erotic dances.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:45 PM, Michael Hetsko <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > I’ve always pronounced it with the “doe”.   I think I’ll keep it.
> >
> >
> > ~Mike Hetsko
> >
> >
> >>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 11:17 PM, Geoffrey Riggs <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 5 Dec 2018 22:52:03 -0500, R PRADA <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I remember I knew a woman who was writing an article about the opera
> for
> >> Opera News and came out with a final judgement that the final T gets
> >> pronounced. I was a newbie and had never heard the opera but I do
> remember
> >> her research, or more precisely the energy behind it.
> >>
> >> ============
> >>
> >> [Geoffrey Riggs] With respect, energy is all I see among the denialists
> who
> >> pretend that Raisa et all are non-persons.  Unless this woman you
> reference
> >> happened to come up with DIRECT and COGENT reasons addressing DIRECTLY
> just
> >> how come the original Turandot AND Ping AND Pang AND Pong AND conductor
> >> could all be coincidentally uniformly wrong(!) on this question, any
> >> "declaration" that the T gets pronounced is just wishful thinking.
> >>
> >> Seriously,
> >>
> >> Geoffrey Riggs
> >>
> >> ===============
> >>
> >>> RP
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 9:22 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system
> >> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> The opera, however, is in Italian in which you do say the final t.
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