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Subject: Fwd: Question re Callas Remasterings on SACD
From: ls111553 <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Fri, 13 Jul 2018 22:34:14 -0400
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You’re right about babies, but I wonder about dogs...

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 7:02 PM donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> What infant humans are listening to Callas, or anything else besides
> "rock-a-by-baby"?  All this alphabet soup stuff gives me the creeps.
>
> dtmk
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:32 PM, ls111553 <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> I love Oppo players. Their demise made me so sad that I ordered a 205 as
>> soon as I read the news. It joins my trusted 95 and 93 Oppos, so I guess I
>> have plenty of backups.
>>
>>
>> The new Callas remasterings are released as SACDs only in Japan but many
>> of
>> them are available locally by searching under "Callas SACD" on Amazon. The
>> results may be labelled as "Audio CD" but you can confirm they are SACDs
>> by
>> looking at the detailed descriptions, and of course by their prices Yes,
>> they are expensive. I usually look for "used" and buy them without
>> hesitation. No problems so far.
>>
>>
>> My overseas source for the ones I can't find on Amazon.com is CDBANQ in
>> Taiwan. Prices same as Amazon, but sometimes there are better deals and
>> availability. Shipping (slowest and cheapest) is about $3.99 per item.
>> Delivery takes about three weeks, but I'm in no hurry. After all, most of
>> the EMI SACDs titles in Amazon are shipped from Japan. I have ordered some
>> items from Amazon.jp, but shipping cost is often higher than at CDBANQ.
>>
>>
>> http://www.cdbanq.com
>>
>>
>> Other local sources:
>>
>> http://store.acousticsounds.com
>>
>> http://www.elusivedisc.com/Browse-all-MUSIC/departments/1371/
>>
>>
>>
>> EMI has released a substantial number of SACD remasterings, including many
>> Fürtwängler and von Karajan releases as well as opera titles such as the
>> Beecham-De los Ángeles Carmen. A very worthwhile (and expensive at nearly
>> $100) is the DECCA SACD editions of Parsifal conducted by Knappertsbusch
>> and the first act of Walküre by Knapperstsbusch - Flagstad.
>>
>>
>> An excellent website for keeping up with what's being released on SACD and
>> Blu-Ray audio is High Resolution Audio net
>>
>> https://www.hraudio.net/home.php
>>
>>
>> A hybrid SACD has two layers of data: a high resolution SACD layer and a
>> Red Book (regular CD) layer, which makes these discs playable on both SACD
>> capable and regular CD players. A single-layer SACD can only be played on
>> SACD capable players.
>>
>>
>> Although I welcome -and collect- the new SACD and Blu-ray audio releases
>> of
>> legendary old recordings, I must remark that I strive to hear any
>> substantial differences between the CD and the SACD layers of hybrid
>> releases in which both versions come from the same master (not the case
>> with Mercury and most RCA Living Stereo releases) and Blu-ray audio discs
>> vs the CD copies included in the same set. I suppose that the main factor
>> here are the decisions made at the remastering stage. I find most recent
>> remasterings of old analog material (as in most SACD and Blu-ray releases)
>> to sound remarkably better than earlier CD versions, possibly thanks to
>> better technology coupled to more expertise and understanding of digital
>> audio by mastering engineers. In my opinion, these qualities are also
>> present on CD copies of the same masters, despite their reduced
>> resolution.  Of course, owning near-identical copies of the master tapes,
>> as offered in high res formats is very enticing, as well as access to
>> multi
>> channel options, often available on SACD and Blu-ray, but not possible on
>> CD.
>>
>>
>> Regular audio CDs are encoded in 16 bits and sampled at 44.1 kHz. High
>> resolution recordings on SACD, Blu-ray and downloadable files are encoded
>> in 24 bits and sampled at 96 kHz or higher.  The sampling rate determines
>> the highest possible frequency that can be stored in the signal. For 44.1
>> kHz (Audio CD) theoretically frequencies up to below 22.05 kHz can be
>> stored. For 96 kHz, the limit is 48 kHz (always half the sampling rate).
>>
>> Infant humans can hear up to about 20 kHz, so theoretically a sampling
>> rate
>> of 40 kHz would be inclusive enough, but 44.1 kHz was chosen for audio CDs
>> due to technical reasons. Analog master tapes, from which most opera
>> recordings are derived cannot capture frequencies above 15 kHz, which,
>> again, are audible to babies and dogs, but not too many opera lovers fall
>> in those groups. The bit depth determines the range between the softest
>> and
>> loudest possible sound = dynamic range. 16 bit (Audio CD) can yield an
>> effective dynamic range of 120 dB. Only few DACs + amplifiers reach that,
>> let alone loudspeakers and for that matter, our ears.
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Max D. Winter <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I recently got an Oppo Blu Ray player (replacing an old Sony CD player)
>> > which has
>> > transformed my listening experience; I feel like I am hearing my Klipsch
>> > Cornwalls for the
>> > first time.  (Proof of the old adage that a chain is only as strong as
>> its
>> > weakest link.)  I have
>> > listened to the Decca Ring in Blu Ray and the Price/Solti "Aida" and
>> > Nilsson/Leinsdorf
>> > "Turandot" in SACD, all revelatory listening experiences
>> (notwithstanding
>> > the original
>> > problematic sonics of the latter).
>> >
>> > I have also listened to some of the Warner Callas releases (I have the
>> > complete set) played
>> > on my new toy, and of course they sound wonderful.  But I was wondering
>> -
>> > are any of
>> > these remasterings available in SACD at anything other than truly
>> > outrageous prices from
>> > Japan?  The Decca Blu Ray issues are priced very reasonably,
>> particularly
>> > the Ring, which at
>> > $62.00 (a single disc) came out to less than $4.50 per disc for the
>> > equivalent on CD.
>> >
>> > Also, to what extent has EMI (I guess I should say Warner) jumped on the
>> > SACD/Blu Ray
>> > bandwagon with its classic recordings?  Doing a search on Amazon for my
>> > favorite
>> > EMI/Angel oldies, I don't see very many.
>> >
>> > Finally, what is SACD Hybrid and how does it differ, if it does, from
>> > SACD?
>> >
>> > MDW
>> >
>> >
>> >
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