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Subject: Re: Question re Callas Remasterings on SACD
From: donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 13 Jul 2018 19:02:20 -0400
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What infant humans are listening to Callas, or anything else besides
"rock-a-by-baby"?  All this alphabet soup stuff gives me the creeps.

dtmk

On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 5:32 PM, ls111553 <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I love Oppo players. Their demise made me so sad that I ordered a 205 as
> soon as I read the news. It joins my trusted 95 and 93 Oppos, so I guess I
> have plenty of backups.
>
>
> The new Callas remasterings are released as SACDs only in Japan but many of
> them are available locally by searching under "Callas SACD" on Amazon. The
> results may be labelled as "Audio CD" but you can confirm they are SACDs by
> looking at the detailed descriptions, and of course by their prices Yes,
> they are expensive. I usually look for "used" and buy them without
> hesitation. No problems so far.
>
>
> My overseas source for the ones I can't find on Amazon.com is CDBANQ in
> Taiwan. Prices same as Amazon, but sometimes there are better deals and
> availability. Shipping (slowest and cheapest) is about $3.99 per item.
> Delivery takes about three weeks, but I'm in no hurry. After all, most of
> the EMI SACDs titles in Amazon are shipped from Japan. I have ordered some
> items from Amazon.jp, but shipping cost is often higher than at CDBANQ.
>
>
> http://www.cdbanq.com
>
>
> Other local sources:
>
> http://store.acousticsounds.com
>
> http://www.elusivedisc.com/Browse-all-MUSIC/departments/1371/
>
>
>
> EMI has released a substantial number of SACD remasterings, including many
> Fürtwängler and von Karajan releases as well as opera titles such as the
> Beecham-De los Ángeles Carmen. A very worthwhile (and expensive at nearly
> $100) is the DECCA SACD editions of Parsifal conducted by Knappertsbusch
> and the first act of Walküre by Knapperstsbusch - Flagstad.
>
>
> An excellent website for keeping up with what's being released on SACD and
> Blu-Ray audio is High Resolution Audio net
>
> https://www.hraudio.net/home.php
>
>
> A hybrid SACD has two layers of data: a high resolution SACD layer and a
> Red Book (regular CD) layer, which makes these discs playable on both SACD
> capable and regular CD players. A single-layer SACD can only be played on
> SACD capable players.
>
>
> Although I welcome -and collect- the new SACD and Blu-ray audio releases of
> legendary old recordings, I must remark that I strive to hear any
> substantial differences between the CD and the SACD layers of hybrid
> releases in which both versions come from the same master (not the case
> with Mercury and most RCA Living Stereo releases) and Blu-ray audio discs
> vs the CD copies included in the same set. I suppose that the main factor
> here are the decisions made at the remastering stage. I find most recent
> remasterings of old analog material (as in most SACD and Blu-ray releases)
> to sound remarkably better than earlier CD versions, possibly thanks to
> better technology coupled to more expertise and understanding of digital
> audio by mastering engineers. In my opinion, these qualities are also
> present on CD copies of the same masters, despite their reduced
> resolution.  Of course, owning near-identical copies of the master tapes,
> as offered in high res formats is very enticing, as well as access to multi
> channel options, often available on SACD and Blu-ray, but not possible on
> CD.
>
>
> Regular audio CDs are encoded in 16 bits and sampled at 44.1 kHz. High
> resolution recordings on SACD, Blu-ray and downloadable files are encoded
> in 24 bits and sampled at 96 kHz or higher.  The sampling rate determines
> the highest possible frequency that can be stored in the signal. For 44.1
> kHz (Audio CD) theoretically frequencies up to below 22.05 kHz can be
> stored. For 96 kHz, the limit is 48 kHz (always half the sampling rate).
>
> Infant humans can hear up to about 20 kHz, so theoretically a sampling rate
> of 40 kHz would be inclusive enough, but 44.1 kHz was chosen for audio CDs
> due to technical reasons. Analog master tapes, from which most opera
> recordings are derived cannot capture frequencies above 15 kHz, which,
> again, are audible to babies and dogs, but not too many opera lovers fall
> in those groups. The bit depth determines the range between the softest and
> loudest possible sound = dynamic range. 16 bit (Audio CD) can yield an
> effective dynamic range of 120 dB. Only few DACs + amplifiers reach that,
> let alone loudspeakers and for that matter, our ears.
>
> On Fri, Jul 13, 2018 at 12:52 PM, Max D. Winter <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > I recently got an Oppo Blu Ray player (replacing an old Sony CD player)
> > which has
> > transformed my listening experience; I feel like I am hearing my Klipsch
> > Cornwalls for the
> > first time.  (Proof of the old adage that a chain is only as strong as
> its
> > weakest link.)  I have
> > listened to the Decca Ring in Blu Ray and the Price/Solti "Aida" and
> > Nilsson/Leinsdorf
> > "Turandot" in SACD, all revelatory listening experiences (notwithstanding
> > the original
> > problematic sonics of the latter).
> >
> > I have also listened to some of the Warner Callas releases (I have the
> > complete set) played
> > on my new toy, and of course they sound wonderful.  But I was wondering -
> > are any of
> > these remasterings available in SACD at anything other than truly
> > outrageous prices from
> > Japan?  The Decca Blu Ray issues are priced very reasonably, particularly
> > the Ring, which at
> > $62.00 (a single disc) came out to less than $4.50 per disc for the
> > equivalent on CD.
> >
> > Also, to what extent has EMI (I guess I should say Warner) jumped on the
> > SACD/Blu Ray
> > bandwagon with its classic recordings?  Doing a search on Amazon for my
> > favorite
> > EMI/Angel oldies, I don't see very many.
> >
> > Finally, what is SACD Hybrid and how does it differ, if it does, from
> > SACD?
> >
> > MDW
> >
> >
> >
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