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Subject: Re: Vishnevskaya
From: Russ Geschke <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Russ Geschke <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 10 Jul 2018 14:44:39 -0500
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Now this is the real thing.  Magnificent, despite the relatively minor signs 
of the inroads of time.  YouTube has a number of restricted- or no-release 
recordings by Slobodskaya of music by Medtner, Prokofiev, Mussorgsky, 
Chopin, Ippolitov-Ivanov, etc., recorded mostly between 1947 and 1961.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "daaaac" <[log in to unmask]>
To: <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2018 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Vishnevskaya


Oops - I forgot the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yDOzD1pQ4 
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yDOzD1pQ4>

Oda Solbodskaya (age 73)
Frederick Stone, piano
Rachmaninoff: In the silence of the night
BBC studio recital
October 22, 1961

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Russ Geschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Re Felia Litvinne (1860/1863-1936):  There was on YouTube a 20-minute 
> excerpt (now gone) of a 1963 French television interview with Germaine 
> Lubin in which after praising Flagstad as having a "voix incomparable" in 
> response to the question "Whose was the greatest voice you ever heard?" 
> immediately answered "Felia Litvinne."  Litvinne had a huge international 
> career, and was also one of the teachers of Lubin as well as Nina Koshetz. 
> Marston Records issued several years ago a CD set of all of Litvinne's 
> records --  Wagner, Meyerbeer, Saint-Saens, Verdi, Donizetti, Faure, 
> Gounod, Napravnik, Rubinstein, you get the idea, the lady was versatile. 
> To continue the list of important historic Russian singers, one could also 
> add Koshetz, Maria Kuznetsova, and Oda Slobodskaya; there are many more, 
> as you indicated.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Camner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Vishnevskaya
>
>
>> Chaliapin was the dominant singer of his time even more famous world wide
>> than Caruso, a huge force. We have no singers today who can compare to 
>> him
>> in any way except for Netrebko, but in a far lesser sense..
>>
>> Vishnevskaya, a wonderful singer was never the top soprano in her time,
>> undoubtedly that was Callas.
>>
>> There are surely many more important Russian sopranos, historically, than
>> Vishnevskaya, let's start with Medea Mei Figner (an Italian who became a
>> Russian colossus), Felia Litvinne, and probably the most important of 
>> all,
>> Antonina Nezhdanova.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Nxl-bMW9U
>>
>> (From my days of selling autographs, I never had anyone ask for one of
>> Vishnevskaya, though her husband Rostropovich was a brisk seller.)
>>
>> Netrebko stands alone in this era, she has no rivals as a star, she's far
>> more famous than Vishnevskaya was, in that way she's like Chaliapin, but 
>> on
>> a much smaller stage, opera singers are no longer the world's premiere
>> entertainment stars as they were in Chaliapin's day, they barely register
>> in today's cultural zeitgeist and I doubt any of them including Netrebko
>> have an income to compare to the top pop singers. Like Chaliapin,
>> Netrebko's talents are less vocal than dramatic.  It's fair to ask if
>> Netrebko is the last international opera star. I believe she might prove 
>> to
>> be so, but one never knows what's around the corner and already sitting
>> here on the West Coast, I feel out of it a bit. But happily so!
>>
>> Regarding Russian singers, there are some expert members of this list who
>> really know this subject much better than me!
>>
>> James Camner
>>
>>
>>
>> .
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:55 AM, David Shengold <[log in to unmask]> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> "Galina Vishnevskaya was the most important and in my opinion (only), 
>>> the
>>> greatest Russian singer of the twentieth century.  The range was 
>>> immense,
>>> her qualities as an opera singer and as a singer of songs was unrivaled,
>>> and before hardness set in, the voice was so truly beautiful. etc"
>>>
>>>
>>> Agree with most all of whet you and others have writen about 
>>> Vishnevskaya
>>> and her historical qualities vis a vis those of Netrebko, an excellent
>>> vocalist and increasingy exciting singing acrtess who - unlike
>>> Vishnevskaya-- has created no important music nor left no definite
>>> recordings of anything.
>>>
>>> I would remind everyone that besides the Moscow studio Verdi REQUIEM 
>>> there
>>> is a live Leningrad Philharmonic performance  from 1960 under 
>>> Melik-Pashaev
>>> with the staggering Irina Arkhipova instead of Nina Isakova as well as
>>> Vladimir Ivanovsky and Ivan Petrov ( who are on the Muscovite 
>>> performance
>>> as well). I like both, but the live one better ( n.b. Ivanovsky, though 
>>> a
>>> fine recorded Grigori/Dmitri, is not remotely in the
>>> Bjoerling/Bergonzi/Pavarotti class in this music).
>>>
>>> And still: "the greatest Russian singer of the twentieth century"? If 
>>> you
>>> said 'female singer" I might agree, but what about Chaliapin? A total 
>>> game
>>> changer for the art form in terms of vocalism and dramatic artistry who
>>> left his mark on many roles-- not only Russian ones--left a studio movie
>>> (Pabst's unforgettable DON QUIXOTE) and created much music ( including
>>> Ibert's songs for that movie, Massenet's DON QUICHOTTE, Rachmaninoff's
>>> cantata "Spring", Salieri in Rimsky's MOZART AND SALIERI. 
>>> Internationally,
>>> Chaliapin's name and reputation were familiar to tens of thousands who
>>> never set foot inside an opera house or concert hall, as with Caruso or 
>>> the
>>> Greek-American diva whose vocal perfection vis a vis her "Coca-Cola" 
>>> rivals
>>> Takis has done so much here to  underline.
>>>
>>> -David Shengold
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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