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Subject: Re: Vishnevskaya
From: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Tue, 10 Jul 2018 13:42:20 -0400
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Oops - I forgot the link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yDOzD1pQ4 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yDOzD1pQ4>

Oda Solbodskaya (age 73)
Frederick Stone, piano
Rachmaninoff: In the silence of the night
BBC studio recital
October 22, 1961

> On Jul 10, 2018, at 1:22 PM, Russ Geschke <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Re Felia Litvinne (1860/1863-1936):  There was on YouTube a 20-minute excerpt (now gone) of a 1963 French television interview with Germaine Lubin in which after praising Flagstad as having a "voix incomparable" in response to the question "Whose was the greatest voice you ever heard?" immediately answered "Felia Litvinne."  Litvinne had a huge international career, and was also one of the teachers of Lubin as well as Nina Koshetz.  Marston Records issued several years ago a CD set of all of Litvinne's records --  Wagner, Meyerbeer, Saint-Saens, Verdi, Donizetti, Faure, Gounod, Napravnik, Rubinstein, you get the idea, the lady was versatile.  To continue the list of important historic Russian singers, one could also add Koshetz, Maria Kuznetsova, and Oda Slobodskaya; there are many more, as you indicated.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Camner" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Monday, July 09, 2018 12:02 PM
> Subject: Re: Vishnevskaya
> 
> 
>> Chaliapin was the dominant singer of his time even more famous world wide
>> than Caruso, a huge force. We have no singers today who can compare to him
>> in any way except for Netrebko, but in a far lesser sense..
>> 
>> Vishnevskaya, a wonderful singer was never the top soprano in her time,
>> undoubtedly that was Callas.
>> 
>> There are surely many more important Russian sopranos, historically, than
>> Vishnevskaya, let's start with Medea Mei Figner (an Italian who became a
>> Russian colossus), Felia Litvinne, and probably the most important of all,
>> Antonina Nezhdanova.
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06Nxl-bMW9U
>> 
>> (From my days of selling autographs, I never had anyone ask for one of
>> Vishnevskaya, though her husband Rostropovich was a brisk seller.)
>> 
>> Netrebko stands alone in this era, she has no rivals as a star, she's far
>> more famous than Vishnevskaya was, in that way she's like Chaliapin, but on
>> a much smaller stage, opera singers are no longer the world's premiere
>> entertainment stars as they were in Chaliapin's day, they barely register
>> in today's cultural zeitgeist and I doubt any of them including Netrebko
>> have an income to compare to the top pop singers. Like Chaliapin,
>> Netrebko's talents are less vocal than dramatic.  It's fair to ask if
>> Netrebko is the last international opera star. I believe she might prove to
>> be so, but one never knows what's around the corner and already sitting
>> here on the West Coast, I feel out of it a bit. But happily so!
>> 
>> Regarding Russian singers, there are some expert members of this list who
>> really know this subject much better than me!
>> 
>> James Camner
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> On Mon, Jul 9, 2018 at 1:55 AM, David Shengold <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> "Galina Vishnevskaya was the most important and in my opinion (only), the
>>> greatest Russian singer of the twentieth century.  The range was immense,
>>> her qualities as an opera singer and as a singer of songs was unrivaled,
>>> and before hardness set in, the voice was so truly beautiful. etc"
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Agree with most all of whet you and others have writen about Vishnevskaya
>>> and her historical qualities vis a vis those of Netrebko, an excellent
>>> vocalist and increasingy exciting singing acrtess who - unlike
>>> Vishnevskaya-- has created no important music nor left no definite
>>> recordings of anything.
>>> 
>>> I would remind everyone that besides the Moscow studio Verdi REQUIEM there
>>> is a live Leningrad Philharmonic performance  from 1960 under Melik-Pashaev
>>> with the staggering Irina Arkhipova instead of Nina Isakova as well as
>>> Vladimir Ivanovsky and Ivan Petrov ( who are on the Muscovite performance
>>> as well). I like both, but the live one better ( n.b. Ivanovsky, though a
>>> fine recorded Grigori/Dmitri, is not remotely in the
>>> Bjoerling/Bergonzi/Pavarotti class in this music).
>>> 
>>> And still: "the greatest Russian singer of the twentieth century"? If you
>>> said 'female singer" I might agree, but what about Chaliapin? A total game
>>> changer for the art form in terms of vocalism and dramatic artistry who
>>> left his mark on many roles-- not only Russian ones--left a studio movie
>>> (Pabst's unforgettable DON QUIXOTE) and created much music ( including
>>> Ibert's songs for that movie, Massenet's DON QUICHOTTE, Rachmaninoff's
>>> cantata "Spring", Salieri in Rimsky's MOZART AND SALIERI. Internationally,
>>> Chaliapin's name and reputation were familiar to tens of thousands who
>>> never set foot inside an opera house or concert hall, as with Caruso or the
>>> Greek-American diva whose vocal perfection vis a vis her "Coca-Cola" rivals
>>> Takis has done so much here to  underline.
>>> 
>>> -David Shengold
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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