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Subject: Re: OPERA-L Digest - 9 Jun 2018 - Special issue (#2018-745)
From: RICHARD SCHAAR <[log in to unmask]>
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> On Jun 9, 2018, at 7:00 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> There are 4 messages totalling 541 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
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>  1. Renee Fleming - Broadway album (3)
>  2. SIRIUS OFFERINGS: Week 23 of 2018 - June 4-10th
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> Date:    Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:42:19 -0400
> From:    John Greene <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
> 
> Oh, god, NO!
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> On
> Behalf Of Christopher Weimer
> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:30 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
> 
> Renee Fleming is releasing an album of musical theater songs, "Broadway." 
> This isn't a total surprise, given her current gig in the "Carousel"
> revival, and I admit I'm curious - though opera singers' success with
> Broadway material has historically been inconsistent, to say the least. 
> (Remember the fad for studio albums of classic musicals starring opera
> singers 20-30 years ago?!  A definite mixed bag.)  The track listing, which
> I'm copying below, does show some interesting repertory choices.
> 
> Christopher Weimer
> 
> Renee Fleming - Broadway
> 1.    'Fable' from "The Light in the Piazza" (Guettel)
> 2.    'Loneliness of Evening' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
> 3.    'Children Will Listen/You've Got to be Taught' from "Into the
> Woods/South Pacific"(Sondheim/Rogers & Hammerstein arr. Couglin), with guest
> star Leslie Odom, Jr.
> 4.    'So Big So Small' from "Dear Evan Hansen" (Pasek & Paul)
> 5.    'Something Wonderful' from "The King and I" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
> 6.    'Wonderful Guy' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
> 7.    'Lay Down Your Head' from "Violet" (Tesori/Crawley)
> 8.    'Down in the Depths (on the Ninetieth Floor)' from "Red, Hot and Blue"
> (Porter)
> 9.    'Love and Love Alone/Winter' from "The Visit" (Kander/Ebb)
> 10. 'Dear Friend' from "She Loves Me" (Bock/Harnick) 11. 'The Sound of
> Music' from "The Sound of Music" (Rodgers & Hammerstein) 12. 'Unusual Way'
> from "Nine" (Yeston) 13. 'Till There Was You' from "The Music Man" (Wilson)
> 14. 'The Glamorous Life' from "A Little Night Music" (Sondheim) 15. 'Tell Me
> on A Sunday' from "Song and Dance" (Lloyd Webber/Black) 16. 'August Winds'
> from "The Last Ship" (Sting) 17. 'All the Things You Are' from "Very Warm
> for May" (Kern/Hammerstein) 
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> Date:    Sat, 9 Jun 2018 18:43:03 +0000
> From:    John Schweger <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: SIRIUS OFFERINGS: Week 23 of 2018 - June 4-10th
> 
> I too have emailed and contacted Met Consultant who was a dunce. Bridget di=
> d not have enough sense to pass the problem to the proper party at Met. Sir=
> ius was just as useless and I have emailed 3 times to [log in to unmask]
> .  I have also emailed radio at Met opera that or go
> 
> Get Outlook for iOS<https://aka.ms/o0ukef>
> ________________________________
> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> o=
> n behalf of E J Michel <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, June 9, 2018 12:03:32 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: SIRIUS OFFERINGS: Week 23 of 2018 - June 4-10th
> 
> several of us have written emails and had no response (i have never had a
> response from the email address on the met opera page).  I am going to
> reach out to the MET Radio guys to see if they can light a fire under
> sirius folks or provide the schedule for next week at least or an
> explanation.
> 
> Since Sirius is a subscription service, they should be providing either an
> explanation or a downloadable schedule in pdf format.
> 
> but either there is a huge problem with the scheduling database at sirius
> or no one at Sirius or the Met cares much - I would think SOMEONE at the
> MET would have been monitoring that site.
> 
> Its been three days now and NOT any announcements on the sirius page about
> issues with the scheduling software (which is obviously the problem since
> there were listings thru Sunday on Thursday and then they disappeared)..
> 
> anyway draw your own conclusions from the silence by both companies.
> 
> I get so frustrated as more and more frequently accountability to
> customers/subscribers is not anyone's priority.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> E J Michel
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> [log in to unmask]
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> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 6:52 AM, Wendell Eatherly <[log in to unmask]
>> 
> wrote:
> 
>> By now, they'd usually have some of the listings for next week up at the
>> Sirius website. Instead, on Thursday, the listings for the rest of THIS
>> week
>> disappeared, al replaced by the generic "Metropolitan Opera Radio" listin=
> g.
>> Weird. I hope someone's just on vacation or something, and this isn't the
>> shape of things to come.
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> 
> Date:    Sat, 9 Jun 2018 18:37:41 -0400
> From:    Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
> 
> Well, I think it HAS to be better than her ridiculously horrid and laugha=
> bly weak-tea "Dark=20
> Hope" album, yes? The one where she *thinks* she's singing indy pop songs=
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> anything would be better than that.=20
> 
> Actually, many of the choices here are sensible. The gorgeous, heartbreak=
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> 
> Of the other more contemporary choices, I would expect the beautiful Viol=
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> he will likewise=20
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> Webber's "Tell Me On A Sunday," which will most likely come off way too "=
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> hall see...;-)
> 
> My REAL wish is that for the last track on the album, Fleming would band =
> up with 3 other=20
> soloists and a choral ensemble and do the full original stage version of =
> "All The Things You=20
> Are," which is truly a musical revelation. This original version (unearth=
> ed by the late great=20
> John McGlinn, who did that archival Show Boat album with all the cut song=
> s, etc)=20
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> ming really=20
> doesn't have the 2 high D's for the obbligato section anymore, maybe she'=
> d be willing to=20
> give that to a fellow soprano as she sings the other female solo part?
> 
> (for those of you who haven't heard the stunning original version - pleas=
> e go here:=20
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DKf80ntbCLCc - and also here:=20
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DdUNQy0uHUvs - if you doubt me, you *wil=
> l* be=20
> surprised!)
> 
> 
> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:42:19 -0400, John Greene <[log in to unmask]> w=
> rote:
> 
>> Oh, god, NO!
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Christopher Weimer
>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:30 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
>> 
>> Renee Fleming is releasing an album of musical theater songs, "Broadway.=
> "
>> This isn't a total surprise, given her current gig in the "Carousel"
>> revival, and I admit I'm curious - though opera singers' success with
>> Broadway material has historically been inconsistent, to say the least.
>> (Remember the fad for studio albums of classic musicals starring opera
>> singers 20-30 years ago?!  A definite mixed bag.)  The track listing, wh=
> ich
>> I'm copying below, does show some interesting repertory choices.
>> 
>> Christopher Weimer
>> 
>> Renee Fleming - Broadway
>> 1.    'Fable' from "The Light in the Piazza" (Guettel)
>> 2.    'Loneliness of Evening' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammer=
> stein)
>> 3.    'Children Will Listen/You've Got to be Taught' from "Into the
>> Woods/South Pacific"(Sondheim/Rogers & Hammerstein arr. Couglin), wi=
> th guest
>> star Leslie Odom, Jr.
>> 4.    'So Big So Small' from "Dear Evan Hansen" (Pasek & Paul)
>> 5.    'Something Wonderful' from "The King and I" (Rodgers & Hammers=
> tein)
>> 6.    'Wonderful Guy' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
>> 7.    'Lay Down Your Head' from "Violet" (Tesori/Crawley)
>> 8.    'Down in the Depths (on the Ninetieth Floor)' from "Red, Hot and B=
> lue"
>> (Porter)
>> 9.    'Love and Love Alone/Winter' from "The Visit" (Kander/Ebb)
>> 10. 'Dear Friend' from "She Loves Me" (Bock/Harnick) 11. 'The Sound of
>> Music' from "The Sound of Music" (Rodgers & Hammerstein) 12. 'Unusua=
> l Way'
>> from "Nine" (Yeston) 13. 'Till There Was You' from "The Music Man" (Wils=
> on)
>> 14. 'The Glamorous Life' from "A Little Night Music" (Sondheim) 15. 'Tel=
> l Me
>> on A Sunday' from "Song and Dance" (Lloyd Webber/Black) 16. 'August Wind=
> s'
>> from "The Last Ship" (Sting) 17. 'All the Things You Are' from "Very War=
> m
>> for May" (Kern/Hammerstein)
>> 
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> 
> Date:    Sat, 9 Jun 2018 20:00:32 -0400
> From:    donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
> 
> I think Ms. Fleming would do better to ignore the pretentious
> trappings of the "original version"  (only in the context of a
> staged performance of VERY WARM FOR MAY might that
> be assessed), and put her hands in her pockets and just sing
> "All The ThingsYou Are" as simply and ravishingly as Beverly
> Sills did in 1973.  It's on Youtube.
> 
> dtmk
> 
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 6:37 PM, Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> Well, I think it HAS to be better than her ridiculously horrid and
>> laughably weak-tea "Dark
>> Hope" album, yes? The one where she *thinks* she's singing indy pop songs?
>> I mean,
>> anything would be better than that.
>> 
>> Actually, many of the choices here are sensible. The gorgeous,
>> heartbreaking "Fable" from
>> The Light In The Piazza is essentially an aria, both in terms of dramatic
>> and musical
>> sweep, and it was written for "legit" soprano voice. Many of the more
>> classic/older
>> selections are also easily imaginable in her voice, as long as she really
>> expresses the
>> TEXT. (And some of the songs, like the Porter "Down In The Depths" really
>> do need to be
>> text first to the hilt The melody in this case really serves the piquant
>> text, not the other
>> way around.)
>> 
>> Of the other more contemporary choices, I would expect the beautiful
>> Violet lullaby to be
>> fine. I'm not so sure about the folk-ish "So Big So Small," and suspect
>> she will likewise
>> wrongly oversing Sting's gorgeous folk/pop "August Winds." And probably
>> the same for
>> Webber's "Tell Me On A Sunday," which will most likely come off way too
>> "pretty" and
>> without the grit a singing actor like Bernadette Peters can give it. We
>> shall see...;-)
>> 
>> My REAL wish is that for the last track on the album, Fleming would band
>> up with 3 other
>> soloists and a choral ensemble and do the full original stage version of
>> "All The Things You
>> Are," which is truly a musical revelation. This original version
>> (unearthed by the late great
>> John McGlinn, who did that archival Show Boat album with all the cut
>> songs, etc)
>> deserves to be much, much better known - and although I would imagine
>> Fleming really
>> doesn't have the 2 high D's for the obbligato section anymore, maybe she'd
>> be willing to
>> give that to a fellow soprano as she sings the other female solo part?
>> 
>> (for those of you who haven't heard the stunning original version - please
>> go here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kf80ntbCLCc - and also here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUNQy0uHUvs - if you doubt me, you *will*
>> be
>> surprised!)
>> 
>> 
>> On Sat, 9 Jun 2018 13:42:19 -0400, John Greene <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oh, god, NO!
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]>
>> On
>>> Behalf Of Christopher Weimer
>>> Sent: Saturday, June 09, 2018 1:30 PM
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Subject: Renee Fleming - Broadway album
>>> 
>>> Renee Fleming is releasing an album of musical theater songs, "Broadway."
>>> This isn't a total surprise, given her current gig in the "Carousel"
>>> revival, and I admit I'm curious - though opera singers' success with
>>> Broadway material has historically been inconsistent, to say the least.
>>> (Remember the fad for studio albums of classic musicals starring opera
>>> singers 20-30 years ago?!  A definite mixed bag.)  The track listing,
>> which
>>> I'm copying below, does show some interesting repertory choices.
>>> 
>>> Christopher Weimer
>>> 
>>> Renee Fleming - Broadway
>>> 1.    'Fable' from "The Light in the Piazza" (Guettel)
>>> 2.    'Loneliness of Evening' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
>>> 3.    'Children Will Listen/You've Got to be Taught' from "Into the
>>> Woods/South Pacific"(Sondheim/Rogers & Hammerstein arr. Couglin), with
>> guest
>>> star Leslie Odom, Jr.
>>> 4.    'So Big So Small' from "Dear Evan Hansen" (Pasek & Paul)
>>> 5.    'Something Wonderful' from "The King and I" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
>>> 6.    'Wonderful Guy' from "South Pacific" (Rodgers & Hammerstein)
>>> 7.    'Lay Down Your Head' from "Violet" (Tesori/Crawley)
>>> 8.    'Down in the Depths (on the Ninetieth Floor)' from "Red, Hot and
>> Blue"
>>> (Porter)
>>> 9.    'Love and Love Alone/Winter' from "The Visit" (Kander/Ebb)
>>> 10. 'Dear Friend' from "She Loves Me" (Bock/Harnick) 11. 'The Sound of
>>> Music' from "The Sound of Music" (Rodgers & Hammerstein) 12. 'Unusual Way'
>>> from "Nine" (Yeston) 13. 'Till There Was You' from "The Music Man"
>> (Wilson)
>>> 14. 'The Glamorous Life' from "A Little Night Music" (Sondheim) 15. 'Tell
>> Me
>>> on A Sunday' from "Song and Dance" (Lloyd Webber/Black) 16. 'August Winds'
>>> from "The Last Ship" (Sting) 17. 'All the Things You Are' from "Very Warm
>>> for May" (Kern/Hammerstein)
>>> 
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