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Subject: Re: the real final night at the old Met 1966
From: Don <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Don <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 9 Jun 2018 09:22:08 -0600
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I  have a section of alfalfa here in New Mexico and I'd have been more than
happy to have contributed 100,000 bales of hay for the new house.
DonD

On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 9:15 AM donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> A lot of people seem to have "read something somewhere"   Having been
> an active member of the committee that was organized in 1966 to prevent
> the destruction of the old house, I can assure them that no one on either
> sidr
> of the controversy seriously questioned the structural integrity of the
> building.
> Those who wanted it preserved were fully aware of its deficiencies and need
> for renovation; those who wanted it gone feared, among other things, that
> it
> might still be put to competitive use as a theatre.
>
> dtmk
>
> On Sat, Jun 9, 2018 at 10:12 AM, Paul Ferraro <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > I recall reading some architect's conjecture that the straw construction
> > contributed to the excellent acoustics of the old barn.  Can you imagine
> if
> > this were taken seriously & the builders of the new barn rushing to buy
> up
> > bales of the stuff for inclusion in the new theater's roof?;-)
> >
> >
> > *Paolo*
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/9/2018 6:12 AM, Bob Rideout wrote:
> >
> >> Donald
> >>
> >> There was a very heavy layer of straw between the ceiling we saw
> >> in the theater and the actual roof that faced the sky. Now, I can
> >> only report on that which was published at the time. It goes like
> >> this - leaks in the roof had caused the straw to become saturated,
> >> increasing the weight to the point that the ceiling was in imminent
> >> danger of collapse, which might have resulted in the deaths of
> >> hundreds of people. Or so it was reported and I have no reason
> >> to question it.
> >>
> >> That was just one structural disaster waiting to happen.
> >>
> >> And then there's the question of money. "When you wish upon a
> >> star!".
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 20:30 donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >> You must have been reading fiction.  There were no "supporting pillars",
> >>> the
> >>> basic structure of the building was a five story horseshoe of three
> foot
> >>> thick
> >>> solid masonry.  I was able to observe the demolition day by day for the
> >>> very
> >>> long months it took; it was no tumble down shack..  All roofs, that
> many
> >>> years
> >>> ago, would have been necessarily constructed of light weight material,
> >>> meaning
> >>> wood, which would have to be replaced, but to admit that now, does not
> >>> justify,
> >>> in retrospect, any such visions of calamity as I have seen today.
> >>>
> >>> I agree with the Donald (Levine), who has posted a level-headed and
> >>> informed
> >>> assessment of how the situation might have or could have been resolved.
> >>> It
> >>> is
> >>> not necessarily the case that the Old Met had to go in order for the
> new
> >>> one
> >>> to thrive.  In my opinion, it was a mistake to try to make the new
> opera
> >>> house
> >>> bigger and grander than the old, instead, something more modern, less
> >>> expensive,
> >>> and adaptable to smaller, as well as to innovative productions should
> >>> have
> >>> been
> >>> considered, with the older venue reserved for traditional staging.  New
> >>> York is a
> >>> much bigger city than so many in Europe that have always found room for
> >>> more
> >>> a single opera house.
> >>>
> >>> dtmk.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:41 PM, R Stuart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I read somewhere that when they razed the old house, it was discovered
> >>>> that
> >>>> many large supporting pillars that should have been solid were instead
> >>>> loosely filled with rubble. The place was in a state such that it
> could
> >>>> have
> >>>> collapsed at any time , and was more likely to do so when the house
> was
> >>>> full.
> >>>> I don't know if, even now, it would be possible to repair that kind of
> >>>> structural
> >>>> defect.
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