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Subject: Re: the real final night at the old Met 1966
From: Paul Ferraro <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Paul Ferraro <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 9 Jun 2018 10:12:25 -0400
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I recall reading some architect's conjecture that the straw construction 
contributed to the excellent acoustics of the old barn.  Can you imagine 
if this were taken seriously & the builders of the new barn rushing to 
buy up bales of the stuff for inclusion in the new theater's roof?;-)


*Paolo*


On 6/9/2018 6:12 AM, Bob Rideout wrote:
> Donald
>
> There was a very heavy layer of straw between the ceiling we saw
> in the theater and the actual roof that faced the sky. Now, I can
> only report on that which was published at the time. It goes like
> this - leaks in the roof had caused the straw to become saturated,
> increasing the weight to the point that the ceiling was in imminent
> danger of collapse, which might have resulted in the deaths of
> hundreds of people. Or so it was reported and I have no reason
> to question it.
>
> That was just one structural disaster waiting to happen.
>
> And then there's the question of money. "When you wish upon a
> star!".
>
> Bob
>
> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 20:30 donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> You must have been reading fiction.  There were no "supporting pillars",
>> the
>> basic structure of the building was a five story horseshoe of three foot
>> thick
>> solid masonry.  I was able to observe the demolition day by day for the
>> very
>> long months it took; it was no tumble down shack..  All roofs, that many
>> years
>> ago, would have been necessarily constructed of light weight material,
>> meaning
>> wood, which would have to be replaced, but to admit that now, does not
>> justify,
>> in retrospect, any such visions of calamity as I have seen today.
>>
>> I agree with the Donald (Levine), who has posted a level-headed and
>> informed
>> assessment of how the situation might have or could have been resolved.  It
>> is
>> not necessarily the case that the Old Met had to go in order for the new
>> one
>> to thrive.  In my opinion, it was a mistake to try to make the new opera
>> house
>> bigger and grander than the old, instead, something more modern, less
>> expensive,
>> and adaptable to smaller, as well as to innovative productions should have
>> been
>> considered, with the older venue reserved for traditional staging.  New
>> York is a
>> much bigger city than so many in Europe that have always found room for
>> more
>> a single opera house.
>>
>> dtmk.
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jun 8, 2018 at 4:41 PM, R Stuart <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> I read somewhere that when they razed the old house, it was discovered
>>> that
>>> many large supporting pillars that should have been solid were instead
>>> loosely filled with rubble. The place was in a state such that it could
>>> have
>>> collapsed at any time , and was more likely to do so when the house was
>>> full.
>>> I don't know if, even now, it would be possible to repair that kind of
>>> structural
>>> defect.
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