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Subject: Re: AAP reports restoration soon Met says of Levine broadcasts to Sirius
From: Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 15 May 2018 21:02:39 +0200
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I think Runnicles is an excellent Wagner conductor. So is Bychkov. Don’t know about Petrenko in that rep, but Nezet-Seguin’s “Parsifal” points to great promise.

Max Paley

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> On May 15, 2018, at 20:49, GABRIEL STELIAN <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Wagner? Thielemann, then a big vacuum, then everyone else.
> 
> Gabe Stelian
> 
>> On May 15, 2018, at 1:49 PM, donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> If there's ever been an actual sweetie among great conductors; I
>> don't know who it was.  When players say they love one, I think
>> it's because of the unusual respect they have for the man's integrity
>> as a musician, as was the case with Toscanini whose verbal abuse
>> during rehearsals is well documented.  Equally well documented
>> were Stokowski's, where exaggerated courtesy mingled with biting
>> sarcasm.
>> 
>> dtmk
>> 
>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 6:12 PM, John Hebel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> At least spell his name correctly: Thielemann.
>>> 
>>> I suppose Karajan was a sweetie.
>>> 
>>> Barenboim is a genius, especially in Wagner.   I thought a recent Lohengrin
>>> was revelatory.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 5:54 PM, Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Tom
>>>> 
>>>> There are numerous articles on Google and other sites, from newspapers
>>>> as reputable as "The Guardian", that do chapter and verse of his "right-
>>>> wing"
>>>> politics, and his insistence on total control of personnel decisions,
>>> some
>>>> of which have been seen as anti-semitic. He has had very troubled
>>>> relationships with Munich, Berlin and other symphonic and operatic
>>>> managements, and at least one has cancelled his contract before its end
>>>> over personality issues (defined as ultra conservative political views
>>> that
>>>> have been manifested in various ways during his tenures).
>>>> 
>>>> I do not know how true thes stories are, but they seem to be broadly
>>>> supported by large numbers in the music community.
>>>> 
>>>> I hear his music making as quite extraordinary, but make no excuses for
>>>> his political views. They can be conflated, but I don't know enough to do
>>>> that yet. He is a great conductor; he may be much less as a man!
>>>> 
>>>> Bob
>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 16:03 tom ponti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> In what way is Theilmann a "Hitler" of the podium? Using the H name can
>>>> be
>>>>> troublesome, especially when describing someone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> ________________________________
>>>>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>>> 
>>>>> on behalf of Don <[log in to unmask]>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2018 3:48 PM
>>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>>> Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] AAP reports restoration soon Met says of Levine
>>>>> broadcasts to Sirius
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sorry but I think Barenboim is a hack and while I like Theilmann's
>>>>> performances, he's the Hitler of the podium
>>>>> DonD
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 12:23 PM Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> That makes two of us!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Bob
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, May 14, 2018 at 14:19 David Kubiak <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What has been interesting to me is to hear other conductors' Wagner
>>>>>>> performances, notably Barenboim and Thielemann, who in my view
>>>> achieve
>>>>> a
>>>>>>> profundity of music-making that was always beyond Levine's grasp
>>> with
>>>>> the
>>>>>>> virtuoso orchestra he created.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David Kubiak
>>>>>>> 
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