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Subject: Re: Gerontius
From: "Conrad, Stephen A." <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Conrad, Stephen A.
Date:Mon, 5 Mar 2018 03:50:13 +0000
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So is the Indianapolis Symphony Orchestra, with Michelle De Young and Anthony Dean Griffey-- but in April of 2019. 
 
-----Original Message----- 
From: Discussion of opera and related issues [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Paul Ricchi 
Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2018 10:35 PM 
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Subject: Re: Gerontius 
 
For those who may be interested, the Boston Philharmonic Orchestra is performing Dream of Gerontius in Symphony Hall in April. (www.bostonphil.org 
) 
 
 
On Sun, Mar 4, 2018 at 9:53 PM Rich Lowenthal <[log in to unmask]> 
wrote: 
 
> The entire performance is available on CD but in poor sound. It is the  
> only recording of Vickers in the role. 
> 
> The first performance of Gerontius was certainly cursed--it was done  
> by an amateur chorus completely unequipped for Elgar's difficult  
> score, and the chorus master died shortly before the performance. The  
> conductor had very little time with the score, and the performance was a disaster. 
> What's remarkable is that enough of the piece still came through that  
> others recognized its quality--as proved when performed by a suitable  
> company. (Elgar, who had a difficult relationship with religion, took  
> the failure as a sign.) 
> 
> Newman's Catholic words were unacceptable to many Anglicans, and for  
> ten years the piece was done with "reformed" wording. 
> 
> All of Elgar's oratorios (a term he did not like) are wonderful--The  
> Apostles, The Kingdom, and the cantata Scenes from the Saga of King  
> Olaf. 
> 
> ------ Original Message ------ 
> From: "David Kubiak" <[log in to unmask]> 
> To: [log in to unmask] 
> Sent: 3/4/2018 9:21:32 PM 
> Subject: Re: Favorite non-opera vocal works? 
> 
> >Somewhere this thread got turned to Frieda Leider and 'Tristan', but  
> >reverting to its title, one of my very favorite non-operatic vocal  
> >works is Elgar's 'Gerontius'. Having once sung in the chorus for it  
> >(lucky for me under Raymond Leppard, who is in the direct line of the  
> >performance 
> >tradition) it's not hard to see why the piece failed at its premiere  
> >when apparently it was so recently finished each section only had its  
> >own parts 
> >-- that demon bit is indeed fiendishly difficult. In any event, I  
> >just discovered a YouTube of the 'Sanctus, fortis' section with Jon  
> >Vickers and Barbirolli, said to be from a 1957 performance in Rome.   
> >He is quite magnificent -- I cannot imagine that the part has been  
> >sung better before or since.  And it surprises me a little that he  
> >did it, since Newman's poem is very Catholic in a devotional way and  
> >Vickers was known to be a very convicted Protestant.  Does anybody  
> >know if there is more of the performance preserved? 
> > 
> >Thanks. 
> > 
> >David Kubiak 
> > 
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