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Subject: Re: In the Maestro's Thrall
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 3 Mar 2018 17:47:31 +0000
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Amen to all of it!

BTW, I want to address a comment made by Kiwi yesterday.
I may have missed some posts on this subject, tiresome as it
has become, but I have not read one word on Opera-L, going back
to last Autumn, that in any way condoned Levine's behavior because
of his artistic legacy. That is just nonsense!

Bob

On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 12:28 Max D. Winter <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Don Harley wrote:
>
> "The situation was much worse than I ever knew and I'm horrified that
> anyone, outside of
> politics, would use his stature for the purpose he did."
>
> Well, it sounded to me like a garden-variety cult built around a
> charismatic cult figure.  It is
> "horrifying" to the extent any similar cult is "horrifying."  But it is
> also clear to me from the
> article that members of the cult - the "Levinites" - had mixed feelings
> and reactions to it.
> As is so often the case in life, it sounds like it was a very complicated
> situation.  Obviously
> there were significant rewards, in terms of musical development, to being
> part of Levine's
> cult.  Do we know how the Levinites who got jobs at the Met or had their
> careers enhanced
> by their association with Levine feel about him today?  If their view of
> Levine is, on balance,
> a positive one, should that weigh in the balance?
>
> What I want to know is, did this kind of controlling, abusive (not just
> sexually) behavior
> continue to manifest itself after Levine became associated with the Met in
> 1972?  I may
> have missed something, but I don't recall hearing any horror stories
> during Levine's Met
> tenure of the kind recounted in the Boston Globe.  This doesn't excuse any
> abusive behavior
> that Levine may have demonstrated earlier, but if it stopped decades ago,
> to me that does
> call into question the relevance of the abuse to who Levine is today.
>
> I think if there are any more recent examples of such behavior by Levine
> in musical circles,
> they will come out soon, as Levine is not longer a potent or intimidating
> force in music
> these days, and if people have stories to share, at least some of them
> will do so .  If all we
> hear is crickets, I think that will be some kind of answer to the question
> I raised in the
> previous paragraph.
>
> Did Levine himself come to realize how unhealthy was his pattern of
> behavior and stop it?  I
> don't know, but if he did, doesn't that count in how we judge Levine the
> man today?  I'm
> not implying an answer, just saying that I don't have it and therefore I
> am not quite as
> ready to cast James Levine into outer darkness and make him a Non-Person
> as others on
> this List are.  I don't have enough of the whole picture of his life to
> make that judgment.
>
> MDW
>
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