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Subject: Re: In the Maestro's Thrall
From: donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 2 Mar 2018 22:19:16 -0500
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Until definitions of "assault" and "abuse" are given, non of the allegations
have merit.  What sort of creature allows abuse to continue for eight years
before, at the age of 23, suddenly noticing it?  "Ouch" indeed.  "Hundreds
of times"?  Please!

dtmk

On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 6:58 PM, Don <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Is 15 or 16 of legal age and were those kids really able to give their
> consent?  I think not.  One boy who said he was 15 at the time said the
> abuse started in 1985 and continued until 1993.  There are also two men who
> said they were abused when they were 17, probably old enough to know better
> but still not of legal age.  One of the men, a cellist, said he had been
> assaulted by Levine hundreds of times.  Ouch.
> DonD
>
> On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:24 PM, Paul Ricchi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I will touch it. Due process does not apply - there is no crime
> allegation.
> > Bad behavior is not always criminal.
> >
> > In the Globe article, all of the abused were of an age when they would be
> > in charge of their own sex lives, and able to give consent.
> >
> > The story was certainly well-researched, many were ready to speak for the
> > record.
> >
> > Those licking their chops waiting for an indictment or a civil suit will
> be
> > disappointed.
> >
> > As for Levine, there can be no exoneration. But eventually his art will
> be
> > separated from his behavior, and the memory of the latter will disappear.
> > It has always worked that way.
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 4:51 PM Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > I guess no one wants to touch this with a ten foot pole.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:15 AM, Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > There is a marvelous and quite devastating article in the Boston
> Globe
> > > > titled "In the Maestro's Thrall".  It's a chilling retelling of
> sexual
> > > and
> > > > psychological abuse by James Levine to his acolytes over the years
> > prior
> > > to
> > > > and even extending for some, after his arrival at the Met in 1972.
> It
> > > is a
> > > > classic tale of manipulation by the strong over the weak.  It is sort
> > of
> > > > similar to the Manson syndrome except the object wasn't the taking of
> > > > life.  Perhaps I am over reacting but it is chilling and frightening
> > that
> > > > this could have been happening so early in his career and he managed
> to
> > > > pull it off for decades.  There is just too much coming out to
> ignore.
> > > You
> > > > can say due process all you want, but this stuff is scary.
> > > >
> > > > Donald
> > > >
> > >
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