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Subject: Re: MET Aida Next Season
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 20 Feb 2018 21:53:31 +0000
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Hi Trish

I think most of us enjoyed Latonia Moore enormously when she
sang it on a Met broadcast a few years ago. I recall "Ritorna vincitor"
as particularly memorable. And since then.....?

Careers are often puzzlements!

Bob

On Tue, Feb 20, 2018 at 16:44 Trish Callis <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Nor was Ileana Cotrubas hard-edged; of course, she didn’t sing Aida.  Re
> contemporary Aidas, I enjoyed Latonia Moore and Michelle DiYoung.
>
> Patricia L. Callis (Trish)
>
> ________________________________
> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]>
> on behalf of Vesna Danilovic <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Saturday, February 17, 2018 11:05:24 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: MET Aida Next Season
>
> In absolute agreement, Max.
>
> I assume it was clear that I was referring to the comment by another lister
> that there hasn't been a "serviceable Aida" at the Met since April Millo
> and Leona Mitchell and, as the comment continues, "Listening to the stream
> of Eastern European sopranos, with their hard edged instruments, bark
> through this role at the MET has turned me off to seeing anyone new in it."
>
> FWIW, I did look at the Met database and since 1991 when Aprile Millo and
> Leona Mitchell sang Aida, there have been about 22 sopranos in this role
> and only 7 of them were "Eastern European". Sharon Sweet sang 36 times, the
> highest number of performances, followed by Monastyrska (16), Deborah Voigt
> (15), etc.
>
> Vesna
>
> On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 9:37 PM, Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I think there was much more justification for the stereotype during the
> > Iron Curtain days of the 60s and 70s when Russian singers, in particular,
> > seemed to demonstrate a very different vocal pedagogy than western
> singers.
> >
> > I’ve never found the “Slavic” stereotype to fit singers from the former
> > Yugoslavia; think of Jurinac and Milanov for starters.
> >
> > Max Paley
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> > On Feb 17, 2018, at 08:00, Vesna Danilovic <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > No, Stoyanova is certainly not hard-edged. Thank you, Max, for your
> > sensitive observation and, as always, your enlightening discussion about
> > the vocal demands for different roles. And I can name at least a few more
> > but, for the first time since I've been on this list, I'd like to make a
> > larger point *and* plea:
> >
> > I never asked my fellow listers this and have been quietly reading all
> > kinds of stereotypes about the "Slavic" and "Eastern European" singing,
> > almost always in a derogatory manner. Could we please stop generalizing
> > along these lines? My language is Slavic (Serbo-Croatian) and I can't
> > understand any Russian or Polish (just to pick random examples) except
> for
> > some isolated words. This is as a diverse linguistic branch as are
> Germanic
> > or Romance languages. The same applies to "Eastern Europeans", not just
> > ethno-linguistically but also culturally diverse, including different
> vocal
> > traditions and styles.
> >
> > Thank you, Vesna
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 17, 2018 at 10:13 AM, Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> Stoyanova isn’t hard edged.
> >>
> >> Seems that the dolce “O patria mia” high C spooked Harteros off the role
> >> which is too bad; she can sing the rest of it very beautiful.
> >>
> >> I think Aida is one of the most difficult roles in the entire
> repertoire.
> >> It’s so popular that opera houses constantly want it and a number of
> >> sopranos klutz their way through. Finding a soprano with the size of
> voice
> >> for the concertato who also has the fine grained dynamic control over
> her
> >> whole range, the needed firmness and steadiness of sound and the sheer
> >> beauty of sound to do the Nile Scene and Tomb Scene justice is no small
> >> feat.
> >>
> >> I think it might even be harder to find a really good Aida than it is to
> >> find a satisfying Tristan or Siegfried.
> >>
> >> In a radio interview in the mid 80s, Eva Marton (whom I first saw as
> Aida
> >> in 1977) already posed the question “Who is there who can sing Aida
> today?”
> >>
> >> Max Paley
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> > On Feb 17, 2018, at 14:51, Ghozel <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > The last great AIDAs were Leona Mitchell and Aprile Millo, both of
> whom
> >> inherited the role from Leontyne Price.  They played Aida when the
> current
> >> MET production was unveiled almost 30 years ago.
> >> >
> >> > There hasn't been a serviceable Aida since.  Listening to the stream
> of
> >> Eastern European sopranos, with their hard edged instruments, bark
> through
> >> this role at the MET has turned me off to seeing anyone new in it.
> >> >
> >> > Let's stop pretending we can find good casts for most Verdi anymore.
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