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Subject: Re: Records
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:16:38 +0000
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Elisabeth Schwarzkopf singing Operetta including the spectacular
Nun's Chorus from Casanova. It is as fabulous today as it was the
first time I played the vinyl in 1960. There ain't nuthin' like it!

Bob

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 11:58 Rich Lowenthal <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> Over the holidays I bought a CD for my brother and found myself
> wondering whether it was the last CD I would ever buy. I stream just
> about everything I listen to--it's more convenient and there's a better
> selection than what's on my shelves.
>
> We've asked similar things in the past, but as we're waxing nostalgic,
> what was the first vocal item listers bought on CD? Mine was Jessye
> Norman singing Vier letzte lieder--still one of my favorite recordings.
>
> Rich
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: "Jon Goldberg" <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: 2/13/2018 11:43:16 AM
> Subject: Records (was - Re: Another announcer - David Elliott (WHRB
> Boston))
>
> >"All recorded music"?? No sir. The methods have changed, as they have
> >tended to do
> >every generation, but music is still being recorded and listened to,
> >and will be for a long
> >time to come.
> >
> >What is a record (musically speaking)? At one point it was a cylinder.
> >Then, very
> >breakable discs that became standardized at 78 rpm. By the 1930's and
> >"talkies,"
> >recordings could be done on film, and tape would follow soon after, in
> >both reel and
> >cassette formats. (And of course the ephemeral 8-track, which always
> >seems to be the
> >butt of jokes more than a truly successful invention - just like the
> >Betamax, lol.) The
> >heavy breakable 78's eventually ceded to "unbreakable" vinyl 33's, and
> >45's. (I still have
> >one of those clip-on adapters that make it possible to play 45's on a
> >standard turntable.
> >Remember those little attachments?) The big LP's transformed into small
> >CD's that
> >"recorded" in digital terms instead of analog. Which led to music being
> >recorded on no
> >discs at all, available the same way that I type this post. But is it
> >*really* any less valid
> >this way?
> >
> >Sure, having been born in the 60's, my youth was all about the vinyl
> >age, and I have to
> >say that what I *really* miss are the 12" covers, the artwork, the
> >booklets, etc. Yes, CD's
> >still had all that, but on a much smaller scale. And yes, as music is
> >tending to move
> >online, I do miss the physical form of recording that you can browse in
> >person at the
> >store (something we also barely have anymore) - but on the other hand,
> >it seems to me
> >that we have more access to so much music online than we've ever had in
> >the analog
> >age, and in an instantly accessible way.
> >
> >A decade or so ago, I was still carrying around CD's and a CD Walkman
> >everywhere I go,
> >as I'm so often listening to music as I travel. That in itself is
> >remarkable, given that when
> >I was a preteen starting to get into opera, my only practical way to
> >bring music around
> >with me was in recording LP's to tape and carrying a small tape
> >recorder (not yet a
> >Walkman, though that was just around the corner).
> >
> >In fact, I have fond memories of the "pirating" that my dad and I used
> >to do when I was a
> >kid - we would build our own personal collections of music by raiding
> >the several well-
> >stocked libraries in our area, and recording the vinyl to cassettes.
> >And with my dad and I
> >both having a bit of "type A" in us, lol, this was a complex process -
> >adding up the
> >timings on the records to see how best to fit them on the cassette
> >(which actually meant
> >having to time things ourselves if the info wasn't listed), having to
> >watch out for
> >imperfections/skips (my dad was more into having clean recordings - if
> >there were too
> >many audible pops and scratches, he wouldn't record it - if it was a
> >piece I still wanted to
> >have in my collection, I'd often record it anyway), and
> >"post-production," which for my
> >dad was writing the album and cast info on index cards to be filed
> >away, and giving each
> >cassette a number to go with those files. Of course, we did buy albums
> >also, lol - but I'm
> >sure the 2 of us were far from the only people to be making their own
> >tapes of library
> >recordings. ;-)
> >
> >I remember a friend in college (this would have been around 1983/4) who
> >got a CD
> >player and was so excited about the new format. Funny that though the
> >technology was
> >exciting, I at first didn't like the sound I was hearing - TOO clean to
> >my ears. But by
> >1990, as new recordings I wanted were no longer being offered on LP's,
> >I gave in. Now I
> >wonder what the fuss was all about, lol. I still love my LP's, but CD's
> >became far more
> >manageable. But now, having so much music on our computers and phones
> >(or mp3
> >devices, etc), it's easy to see why even CD's are now a bit "passe" -
> >even though I still
> >buy them and play them.
> >
> >But of course I'm not saying anything here that isn't evident to all of
> >us. Just that I don't
> >think recorded music is going away anytime soon - it's just the way
> >it's recorded. Anyone
> >want to go back (exclusively) to the cylinder age?? ;-)
> >
> >(And going back to the original topic as it relates - I love the very
> >early recordings that
> >David Elliott plays. A huge part of our history and legacy, and,
> >"primitive" sound and all,
> >so cool to hear. The way we record and listen has changed many times,
> >but that doesn't
> >negate the oldest recordings. No sound sissy I, lol.)
> >
> >
>
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