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Subject: Re: Extra Long Musical Introductions to Arias
From: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Thu, 1 Feb 2018 19:31:38 -0500
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Boccanegra: Come in quest'ora bruna

> On Feb 1, 2018, at 7:04 PM, Les Mitnick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I'm having one of "those" days.  Freezing here, had a fender bender, and am probably not operating on all cylinders.  I didn't read the initial post carefully enough. But I'm not crazy because my mother had me tested.
>                                Les
>> On February 1, 2018 at 5:53 PM Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Les
>> 
>> What are you talking about? Paul made no judgments about the
>> musical value of any of these settings, nor did I. There are days
>> when.....oh, well, you fill in the blanks!
>> 
>> And for the record, the orchestral introduction to "Dich, teure Halle"
>> is magnificent!
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 18:46 Les Mitnick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> Bob:
>>> 
>>>     I agree with you about "Dich, teure Halle" totally.   It's entirely
>>> too long.  I cannot concur on the Verdi items.  All three arias are
>>> actually "scenas" and are truly grand pieces.  All three of these Verdi
>>> arias are very long (almost triple "tiered") and are tremendous test pieces
>>> for the soprano and bass.  Of course, this is only my humble opinion, and
>>> it means nothing.  Others may and probably will feel differently, which is
>>> fine.
>>> 
>>>     I also love the spooky not short introduction to Ulrica's double
>>> tiered aria.   Good stuff.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>     Les
>>> 
>>> On February 1, 2018 at 5:34 PM Bob Rideout wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "Tu che le vanita" - Don Carlo
>>> "Ella giammai m'amo" - Don Carlo
>>> "Dich, teure Halle" - Tannhauser
>>> "Una macchia.. (Sleepwalking Scene) - Macbeth
>>> 
>>> There are lots more.
>>> 
>>> Bob
>>> 
>>> On Thu, Feb 1, 2018 at 18:24 Paul Ferraro wrote:
>>> 
>>> Some fellow opera fans were mulling over great arias that appear to
>>> contain really long musical introductions before the actual singing
>>> finally begins. Suffering "senior moments" all I could think of were
>>> Alvaro's "o tu che in seno agli angeli", Filipo's "ella giammai m'amo"
>>> & Arturo's "a te o cara".
>>> 
>>> Does anyone care to recall some equally obvious long introduction
>>> selections?
>>> 
>>> Ciao,
>>> 
>>> Paolo
>>> 
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