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Subject: Re: Met Parsifal Prima: Welcome to Monsalvat
From: gordon young <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:gordon young <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 6 Feb 2018 12:48:05 -0600
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Reading Mr. Kubiak's post he made an excellent statement, "but the tenor
sounded like a bad Mime." It would be another great tenor putdown if Mime
wasn't capitalized.
Gordon

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 10:48 AM, Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> David,
>
> Your not getting old and grumpy - like me, you probably formed your notion
> on how a Parsifal should sound via Sandor Konya and Jon Vickers.  Vogt is
> an acquired taste.  It's a really weird kind of voice.  As for Herlitzius,
> I'm sure in person, she was wonderful - she is a beautiful woman, but she
> is in her mid 50's and has been pushing the envelope for years.  She
> reminded me a lot of Martha Moedl.  Similar vocal qualities and hard
> edges.  I've heard some really good Parsifal's - Konya and Vickers who were
> great, King, Domingo sang it very well.  It looks like we have to go with
> what we've got.  I'm sure Kaufmann would have been vocally much more
> agreeable and Kundry is a role I'd have loved to have heard Dolora Zajick
> sing.  If I might digress, for me, the great Kundry's of my experience were
> Christa Ludwig, Leonie Rysanek and Waltraud Meier.  I guess the organ toned
> Jessye Norman belongs there too.  That's not what we heard last night.  The
> orchestra and Nezet-Seguin were heaven.
>
> Donald
>
> On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 9:37 AM, David Kubiak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > I have complete respect for Don's expert opinions, and although I didn't
> > hear Pape yesterday, I have no doubt he continues to be an extraordinary
> > Gurnemanz.  But I tuned in in the middle of Act II and could not believe
> my
> > ears.  The music seemed to be 'Parsifal', but the tenor sounded like a
> bad
> > Mime.  In fact I would argue that Vogt does not really do opera singing
> in
> > the European tradition at all, but is a kind of pop cross-over singer,
> > complete with constantly raised larynx.  I know that with age I'm getting
> > grumpy about the state of singing today, but Jon Vickers was my first
> > Parsifal, and what I heard last night might make one weep over how far we
> > have fallen.  And the Kundry -- another ugly wobbling screamer.  I wish I
> > had been able to listen to Pape in the last act to recover.
> >
> > David Kubiak
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, 5 Feb 2018 19:05:01 -0700, Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >I'm thinking of the same thing - listening and loving it. Rene Pape is
> the
> > >most gorgeous Gurnemanz since my first Parsifal which was with Cesare
> > >Siepi.  The Met is in good hands with Nezet-Seguin - that is if they
> > >survive the next decade.
> > >
> > >Donald
> > >
> > >On Mon, Feb 5, 2018 at 6:28 PM, G. Paul Padillo <
> [log in to unmask]
> > >
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >> I hope others have tuned into either Sirius, or the Met's free stream
> at
> > >> their website for the
> > >> season premiere of "Parsifal."
> > >>
> > >> Act 1 was close to perfection.  For one still so young, Yannick
> > >> Nézet-Séguin has this score
> > >> running through his veins.  There is an expansiveness and fluidity,
> but
> > >> also a tautness that
> > >> heightens the drama.  The cast is inspired and everything is flowing
> > just
> > >> beautifully.
> > >>
> > >> Right now rock icon Patti Smith is talking about Wagner experiences,
> > >> mixing with Puccini and
> > >> Verdi during the intermission.
> > >>
> > >> Tune in for Act 2 starting shortly!
> > >>
> > >> "Du siehst, mein Sohn,
> > >> zum Raum wird hier die Zeit!"
> > >>
> > >> p.
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