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Subject: Re: Levine
From: Ombrarecds <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Tue, 5 Dec 2017 14:01:36 -0600
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It's called discussion. If you are not interested- DELETE! You are not the Hall Monitor.

Patrick Byrne

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> On Dec 5, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Don <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> and so on and so on ad nauseum.  must we repeat the same astonishment about
> this?  does everyone have to chip in with nothing new to say?  We get it.
> It's a horrible thing on all sides.
> dond
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:02 AM, Kiwi <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> I find all this so upsetting that I can't quite make sense out of it.
>> Apparently, the decades-old rumors about Levine were widely known by
>> management (who, indeed, may have even participated in covering up the open
>> secret by providing pay-outs to victims), board members, musicians and
>> audience members--and yet nothing was ever done until Levine was old and
>> growing less reliable as a conductor--in short, until his sell-by date had
>> passed.  Now Peter Gelb declares he is deeply disturbed by the latest
>> reports (but only once they become reportable in the press, not before when
>> he and the board members were quietly cleaning up mess after mess) and
>> finds it a tragedy for anyone whose life has been affected.  And yet,
>> management, board members, musicians and audiences at no time sanctioned
>> Levine.  How about all those mothers and fathers who brought their kids to
>> the Met or whose kids participated in Met productions or other venues where
>> Levine worked?  Did anyone warn them about potential risks?  Did anyone
>> mention that the health and wellbeing of their child might be at risk?
>> 
>> All those audience members who sat through a Levine performance and who
>> knew the 'rumor':  what sort of justification can be used?  That Levine
>> wouldn't approach them directly because they were adults?  It didn't matter
>> because no one in their family or in their social group were affected?
>> It's just music and he couldn't harm anyone while waving around his baton?
>> All those glowing praises bestowed on Levine by people WHO KNEW he was
>> preying on kids and who didn't care because they put their aural pleasure
>> first?
>> 
>> OK, I get it:  we want what we want when we want it, and everything else
>> be damned.  But we are talking kids here, and don't we all, at some point
>> in our lives, need to take a deep breath and say enough is enough?  I'll
>> give this one thing up, the thing I love, if it saves another?
>> 
>> Or is that too idealistic?  Do we all just hold ourselves so entitled that
>> we no longer care about those who can't protect themselves?
>> 
>> And, please, I've had a couple of folks who compared the apple/Wagner to
>> the orange/Levine.  One (as far as I know) was verbally anti-Semitic;  the
>> other was physically assaulting boys.    I'm not sure I see a clear
>> parallel but....I guess whatever floats your entitled boat works for you.
>> 
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