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Subject: Re: Levine accused of sexual abuse
From: Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Mon, 4 Dec 2017 12:50:03 -0500

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Mr. Kane - I assume you're referring to a reference I made, and I'm a little surprised that 
you would so willfully take my remarks out of context. I say willfully, because I do know 
you're an intelligent man, whether I find you to also be a curmudgeon or not, lol. 

I was responding to the question as to whether the Met and other outlets will decide to 
remove Levine's recordings and videos from their "shelves" (cyber or physical). My 
question in return is, are we able to separate the distasteful actions of a man from his 
undeniable talent? I'm sure you're aware, Mr. Kane, of the ages-old debate many people 
have had, and still have, about Wagner's bigotry vs. his music (and Hitler's further 
appropriation of his music, etc, which has of course served to amplify the controversy 
over time) and whether or not we can revere his talents and put aside his beliefs for the 
sake of his musical and dramatic genius. I think the same kind of debate now applies to 
Levine's talent in light of the current accusations. (And in fact, it will surely apply to 
people who have enjoyed Kevin Spacey's films, or Louis CK's comedy, and on and on.) 
But the point is, of course, that it's about any such human ugliness, not just sexual 

How you got from that to Wagner's being pegged as a sexual predator I have no idea. As 
I said, I think you're smarter than that. Thank you. 

On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 11:47:59 -0500, donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>One of the wildest assertions to have been made, is that James Levine
>exhibits behavior similar to that of Richard Wagner.  The only thing
>those two have in common is the right to be considered innocent until
>proven guilty .  The composer, approve of his ethical standards or not,
>was never accused of sexual misbehavior, and eloquently justified, without
>shame, the ways in which his amorous preferences were reflected in his

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