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Subject: Re: Girls of the Golden West
From: Paul Ricchi <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Paul Ricchi <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 25 Nov 2017 19:22:26 +0000
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I agree with David, but I always thought “ Allo Meenie!” one of the best
laugh lines in opera.

On Fri, Nov 24, 2017 at 3:32 PM David Wagner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thanks are due to Frank for posting a review he so strongly disagrees with.
> But, though without the advantage of having seen "Girls," I must agree with
> krboyce. Unless Kosman's review is just factually inaccurate, "Girls"
> sounds, not so much like a PC teach-in, but like a geeky College
> Republican's send-up of a PC teach-in`.
>
> I dispute only Kosman's line about of Puccini's "laughable Italian miners
> and...singular heroine." Minnie's singularity as a heroine is a plot
> premise. OK, so the secondary profession of most western women who kept
> saloons was probably not that of schoolmarm/Bible teacher. But the libretto
> accounts for how Minnie is who she is, in the moving duet in which Rance
> does the same for himself.
>
> As for the miners, they're only Italian in the sense that Puccini and that
> Mozart's Spaniards in Don Giovanni and Figaro are, or his Egyptians in
> Flute are German: i.e. the composer and librettist(s) worked in the
> language(s) they were familiar with and were expected of them by most of
> their audiences. Idk, maybe they should have written Fanciulla in English
> bc of its Met premiere; but that would probably have resulted in more
> comical anomalies than their frequent shouts of  "Hello!" Apart from that,
> they're no more Italian than the libretto language makes them be: they're
> Joe, Happy, Sid, etc., not Giuseppe, Felice, and Siddo, or Sidneo.
>
> All this is on my mind bc I recently reviewed the Virginia Opera's
> Fanciulla, and immersed myself in the work in preparation. I'll post that
> review separately.
>
> -David Wagner
>
> On Thu, Nov 23, 2017 at 6:04 PM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Kosman's review is spot on, if scathing. Art forms morph through time.
> But
> > their are expectations that what is produced will have some and relevance
> > when compared to other examples of the genre. I probably should not enter
> > this discussion at all. But I was there, twice so far with one more
> > performance coming. And I pretty much agree with what Kosman said.
> >
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> > ------ Original Message ------
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> > From: Frank Cadenhead
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: November 23, 2017 at 1:47 AM
> > Subject: Girls of the Golden West
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