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Subject: Re: What makes a satisfying singer
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Mon, 20 Nov 2017 17:05:01 +0000
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Re: John McCormack

Not to mention his diction, generally, but particularly his English,
which was the most clearly and cleanly defined that I have ever
heard.

Bob

On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 11:44 donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> His operatic career, though noteworthy, was limited, and pretty much
> over even before the death of Caruso, but I must remind myself, as well
> as others, that the singer whom I consider to be the most satisfying of
> all time, is still John McCormack.  It is an opinion which takes nothing
> away from Di Stefano, Gigli, Melchior,Tauber,  or many other great
> tenors I love, but none of them commanded the variety of styles, from
> Handel and even Wagner, to Puccini, Hugo Wolf, Moore, Lehar, and
> Irving Berlin, in which he was eminently satisfying.  (Speaking only of'
> recorded evidence covering a period of almost forty years).
>
> dtmk
>
> On Mon, Nov 20, 2017 at 1:46 AM, Isaac Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > To listen to Giuseppe di Stefano sing without being moved emotionally,
> > would indicate some kind of breathing stone, rather than flesh and blood.
> > He was a magnificent artist with a very beautiful voice, and these
> > qualities made him special in a very satisfying way. Caruso is another,
> who
> > in spite of faults and idiosyncrasies, is overwhelmingly satisfying on a
> > number of fronts, not least of which was his incredible ability to lift
> the
> > tone from low to middle to high voice, as if an elevator were
> transporting
> > all the power and emotion in one solid unit. Jussi Bjoerling is
> satisfying
> > for his glorious outpouring of tone, and his sometimes quite uncanny
> > musicality. Maria Callas for all the reasons that have been posted here
> for
> > years, Richard Tauber for his depth of feeling and his magical way with a
> > melody, and for me, his ability to make a rather flawed voice sound
> > wonderful, and even at times quite magnificent.
> >
> >
> > Reagrds,
> >
> > Isaac Alan
> >
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]
> >
> > on behalf of tom ponti <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, 19 November 2017 7:39 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: What makes a satisfying singer
> >
> > I did not even think of di Stefano but I agree that he was special in
> that
> > way and had a gorgeous voice, which unfortunately he ruined early, so I
> > never had the chance to hear him live. I may get in trouble here but
> when I
> > first purchased Callas opera highlights albums, it was because of her.
> > After a while, however, I was purchasing them as much or more for him,
> > rather than her.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 1:54 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]; tom ponti
> > Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] What makes a satisfying singer
> >
> > Actually, much as I adore Bergonzi, and agree with your basic
> > premise, I would give the Golden Palm to Giuseppe di Stefano.
> >
> > He is immediately recognizable, but the variations in dynamic
> > shading are just amazing. I will reference, Musica Proibita from the
> > early forties and the two Mignon arias, beauty of expression and tone
> > that are utterly jaw dropping. Then listen to Core 'ngrato from Mexico
> > followed by the finale of Pagliacci from Scala 55. The intensity of
> > expression and the declamatory bite of his delivery are unmatched.
> > In this one area, great as Bergonzi is, di Stefano is greater, I think.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > On Sun, Nov 19, 2017 at 13:39 tom ponti <[log in to unmask]<mailto:to
> > [log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
> > Bergonzi? To my ears he colors or changes his vocal sound according to
> > what he is singing more than any other tenor I ever heard.
> >
> >
> > ________________________________
> > From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]
> <
> > mailto:[log in to unmask]>> on behalf of Bob Rideout <
> > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 19, 2017 12:53 PM
> > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] What makes a satisfying singer
> >
> > Hello everybody
> >
> > Stefan Zucker asked me to post this for him.
> >
> > Bob
> >
> > >
> > > For me a singer is satisfying to the degree to which his voice adapts
> > > itself to music, words and underlying emotions. Tamagno, Pertile,
> > > Martinelli, Schipa and Gigli are satisfying but almost no tenor since.
> > > (Corelli is exciting, which is something different.) At an opposite
> pole
> > is
> > > Milanov: her voice remains the same regardless of what she is singing.
> > >
> > > Stefan
> > >
> > >
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