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Subject: Re: High frequency hearing loss
From: Sue Harrison <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Sue Harrison <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 10 Oct 2017 18:27:46 +0000

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 I knew I needed hearing aids, but for years other needs were a higher priority. 
Hearing aids were a revelation. Sounds like keys jangling in a pocket, a muted phone signal deep in a friend's purse, loud road noise from the wrong tires, *crumpled* paper -- all were sounds I hadn't heard in years. Now I go automatically for captioned video because consonants don't translate in my brain as quickly as they do in yours, and if Brits are talking, I need a translator about 1/3 of the time.
Needing to upgrade audio gear to sync with current technology at affordable costs also raises the question of just how great does it have to be, considering that I listen through good quality hearing aids and can't go with earbuds or headphones often enough to make them a viable option.

Opera in house, from movie theater, on home stereo still delights via hearing aids. You and I will literally hear differently, and we can't compare your apples to my oranges. 
So if I tell you I love Radvanovsky and Calleja, just trust me, I do love them. Feel free to go about your life disagreeing with me. But don't try to persuade me that my opinion is wrong. Opinions are like assholes; everybody has one.
And get your hearing tested because we all deserve to hear as well as possible.
Sue HarrisonDallas, TX

    On Tuesday, October 10, 2017, 12:22:01 PM CDT, DK Conn <[log in to unmask]> wrote:  
 As I said in a previous post, I was not targetting anyone.  One's experience
of decades of attending opera, however enviable, does not obviate the
statistical likelihood (increased for men, in comparison to women) that
one's hearing acuity, especially at higher frequencies, might deteriorate
with age.  Hearing acuity varies among individuals right from birth, and
unlike some other characteristics it does not improve over time.  How many
people on this list have actually had their hearing tested even once?  How
does one know that what one hears at age 60, 70, 80, 90, 100 is the same as
what he/she heard at age 20?  With any luck, I will get to be well advanced
in years myself (though I hope to be less crotchety than some on this
list!), and I will certainly continue to monitor my hearing.

On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 10:32:16 -0400, william kasimer <[log in to unmask]>

>On Tue, 10 Oct 2017 13:30:49 +0000, Miguel A De Virgilio 
>>You exposed your ignorance in basic audiometry. The spoken voice 
frequency content is 
>in the low range. The  loss it is the most common occurrence among  the
elderly resulting in  
>their inability to discriminate the words.<
>Well, not exactly.
>Spoken voice is indeed in the lower range, but consonants, particularly
sibilants, which are 
>essential for being able to hear conversational speech, are high range. 
*That* is why 
>people with high frequency hearing loss have difficulty with speech
discrimination, which is 
>exacerbated by background noise.  It's also the reason why singers on
acoustic recordings 
>are often unintelligible.
>Anyone interested in their own hearing might want to visit one of the
online sites that allows 
>you to check, such as 
>It's certainly not the same quality as a test performed by an audiologist
in a proper setting, 
>but it'll give you some idea.  Like it or not, some degree of high
frequency hearing loss is 
>virtually universal, as demonstrated here:
>Bill (still hearing up to 11,000 Hz)

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