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Subject: Re: Calleja's Polione Met 10/7/21
From: deutschkurzhaar <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:deutschkurzhaar <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 10 Oct 2017 01:07:46 -0400

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Good lord, I wasn't targetting anyone.  I don't usually read all the 
opera-L posts (I generally only scan the archive version) and I 
hadn't read your previous posts referred to in your response.

I am aware of where the spoken voice lies in the audible (to human) 
range; that was not the point.  It is a fact that, as people age, 
loss of hearing at higher frequencies is common, especially in men 
(compared to women of the same age group).  Higher frequencies are 
where the overtones reside and they are a large part of what makes 
one singer's voice distinct from another.


At 06:46 PM 10/9/2017, Miguel A De Virgilio wrote:
>Evidently your post was targeted to me because of my recent 
>reference to hearing Del Monaco live in 1958 .
>You missed  my previous posts mentioning me hearing  live Carlo 
>Galeffi  and Gigli in 1951.
>Those new dates make me a dinosaur?
>You exposed your ignorance in basic audiometry. The spoken 
>voice  frequency content is in the low range. The
>  loss it is the most common occurrence among  the elderly resulting 
> in  their inability to discriminate the words.
>Moreover, I wasn't' complaining  about Calleja's voice size. As a 
>matter of fact,  in  my review of his Afredo
>in L.A.  Opera a  couple of  years back, I  mentioned being 
>impressed by the large size of his voice.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Discussion of opera and related issues 
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of DK Conn
>Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 1:22 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Calleja's Polione Met 10/7/21
>Indeed.  And what is rarely if ever mentioned is the hearing 
>capability of the listener.  Persons who witnessed performances in 
>the 1950s and 1960s are presumably advanced in years, and, 
>especially if male, have almost certainly experienced hearing loss 
>in at least the higher frequencies.
>On Mon, 9 Oct 2017 13:27:23 -0400, Ron Magnuson 
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> On Oct 9, 2017, at 10:36 AM, Miguel A De Virgilio
><[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >>
> >>  attended the HD version
> >> I was highly disappointed on Calleja's performance last Saturday.
> >> His voice sounded generic
> >
> >Generic?  I find that it has one of the most distinctive timbres of any
>tenor performing today.  Indeed, we hear things entirely differently 
>on this List.
> >
> >Ron Magnuson
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