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Subject: Re: OPERA-L Digest - 6 Sep 2017 - Special issue (#2017-870)
From: Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Wed, 6 Sep 2017 20:27:54 -0500
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May have already been mentioned but Lisa Della Casa and Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau were very heavy smokers.

Max Paley

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> On Sep 6, 2017, at 20:12, tom ponti <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> I have heard that Caballe was a chain smoker at some point of her career
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Les Mitnick <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 8:58 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] OPERA-L Digest - 6 Sep 2017 - Special issue (#2017-870)
> 
> I've seen numerous photos of Maria Callas and Tito Gobbi smoking as well.
>> On September 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM Gene Bowen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Smoking:
>> I may be mistaken---and hope that I am---but I think Charles Castronovo
>> suffered  cigarette habituation.
>> 
>> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:05 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system <
>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>>> There are 6 messages totalling 555 lines in this issue.
>>> 
>>> Topics in this special issue:
>>> 
>>>  1. Opera Singers in Movies (3)
>>>  2. nelson eddy smoking (2)
>>>  3. Fw: nelson eddy smoking
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 15:38:00 -0400
>>> From:    "G. Paul Padillo" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>> 
>>> Rich brought up Eddy=92s participation as Orest in Elektra.   Until I saw=
>>> his=20
>>> name on a pirate operatic recording some  30 odd years ago, I hadn=92t
>>> a=20=
>>> 
>>> clue he=92d legitimately performed in opera.  In fact I's thought od it a=
>>> s=20
>>> a joke.  Boy was I ever wrong.
>>> 
>>> Eddy had written a screenplay based on the life of Chaliapin =96 which he=
>>> had=20
>>> also planned to star in.  Had that happened, someone might have
>>> invented=20=
>>> 
>>> the phrase  (before me, now) =93Move over Great Caruso!=94=20
>>> 
>>> Mr. Eddy admitted to learning/memorizing 35 opera roles, 31 of which he=92=
>>> d=20
>>> performed.=20=20
>>> 
>>> His favorite opera was  =93Gotterdammerung=94 and his favorite composer, =
>>> Wagner.
>>> 
>>> Wagner.
>>> 
>>> In an interview =93Nelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=94 he admitted=
>>> to=20
>>> smoking.  He also admitted he thought Hollywood was not yet ready to=20
>>> tackle the filming of complete operas stating:=20=20
>>> 
>>> =93The studios should perfect and finish the job they=92re doing with thi=
>>> ngs=20
>>> like =93Maytime=94 before they start on the more difficult task of adapti=
>>> ng=20
>>> Wagner and Puccini.=94
>>> 
>>> He was asked how old someone should be before they begin singing=20
>>> lessons.=20=20
>>> 
>>> =93For a boy, sixteen, after his voice has safely changed. A girl can sta=
>>> rt at=20
>>> fourteen or fifteen if she=92s precocious . . . and talented.=94
>>> 
>>> Eddy=92s co-stars on film, stage or studio, included Maria Jeritza, (Salo=
>>> me),=20=20
>>> Amelita Galli-Curci, Rose Bampton, Helen Jepson, Ris=EB Stevens,
>>> Eleanor=20=
>>> 
>>> Steber, Dorothy Kirsten, Ingrid Bjoerner, and his maestros included=20
>>> Stokowski. Toscanini, Reiner ns Respighi.
>>> 
>>> A 1939 Chicago Tribune article announcing an upcoming recital at the Civi=
>>> c=20
>>> Opera House, mentions his leading roles in several operas, including =93B=
>>> oris=20
>>> Godunov,=94 but, outside of an aria, I=92ve never seen anything indicatin=
>>> g Eddy=20
>>> ever sang Boris =96 or =93in=94 Boris.=20=20
>>> 
>>> Some of Nelson Eddy=92s other rose include:=20=20
>>> 
>>> CAVALLERIA RUSTICANA - Alfio
>>> LA NAVARRAISE - Bustamente
>>> GIANNI SCHICCHI - Gianni Schicchi
>>> SAMSON ET DELILAH - Abimelech & the High Priest
>>> TANNHAUSER - Wolfram
>>> MADAMA BUTTERFLY - Sharpless
>>> ROMEO ET JULIETTE - Mercutio
>>> LOHENGRIN - Herald
>>> FEUERSNOT - Hammerlein
>>> SECRET OF SUZANNE - Count Gil
>>> L'AMORE DEI TRE RE - Manfredo
>>> DIE MEISTERSINGER - Kothner
>>> MANON LESCAUT - Lescaut
>>> L'ENFANT PRODIGUE - Simeon
>>> ORFEO ED EURYDICE -
>>> DAS RHEINGOLD - Donner
>>> GOTTERDAMMERUNG - Gunther
>>> FAUST - Valentine
>>> HANSEL AND GRETL - Peter
>>> L'ELISIR D'AMORE - Belcore
>>> ELEKTRA - Orestes
>>> WOZZECK - Drum Major (Dramatic Tenor)
>>> MARIA EGIZIACA - Abbot Zosimo and Pilgrim
>>> SALOME - Jochanahan
>>> PARSIFAL - Gurnemanz=20
>>> 
>>> P.
>>> 
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:48:47 +0000
>>> From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: nelson eddy smoking
>>> 
>>>      From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>>  =20
>>> In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=E2=80=9D
>>> h=
>>> e admitted to smoking.
>>> Well,=C2=A0Nelson Eddy=C2=A0was a man.
>>> (Quiz:=C2=A0 Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
>>> Mike Leone
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:17:33 -0400
>>> From:    "Max D. Winter" <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>> 
>>> Rich Lowenthal wrote:
>>> 
>>> "I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was=
>>> his
>>> most unlikely role."
>>> 
>>> Well, for most of the opera, Elektra is essentially singing "I'm calling =
>>> you-hoo-hoo-hoo" to=20
>>> Orestes.
>>> 
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:26:07 -0400
>>> From:    daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
>>> 
>>> Miss Snow from Mad TV?
>>> 
>>> Donald (der andere)
>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>>     From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>>> =20
>>>> In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
>>> Questions,=E2=80=9D=
>>> he admitted to smoking.
>>>> Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
>>>> (Quiz:  Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
>>>> Mike Leone
>>>> [log in to unmask]
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:01:46 +0000
>>> From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Fw: nelson eddy smoking
>>> 
>>>    =20
>>> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>>> From: Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>=20
>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:59 PM
>>> Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
>>>  =20
>>> No.=C2=A0 Lily Pons was once on the Merv Griffin Show (probably more than
>>> o=
>>> nce actually).=C2=A0 They were probably talking about smoking=C2=A0but in
>>> a=
>>> ny event=C2=A0he mentioned that Caruso smoked to which she replied, "Well,
>>> =
>>> Caruso was a man."
>>> I understand that Melchior was out smoking cigars and hunting before he
>>> rec=
>>> orded the Dawn Duet with Flagstad, and that that is the reason=C2=A0he
>>> utte=
>>> rs that famous gasp at the end of the recording.
>>> Mike
>>> 
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>>> To: Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>=20
>>> Cc: Opera-L <[log in to unmask]>
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>>> Donald (der andere)
>>>> On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>> =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>>> =20
>>>> In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
>>> Questions,=E2=80=9D=
>>> he admitted to smoking.
>>>> Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
>>>> (Quiz:=C2=A0 Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
>>>> Mike Leone
>>>> [log in to unmask]
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>>> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 20:05:53 -0400
>>> From:    ANGELO MAMMANO <[log in to unmask]>
>>> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>>> 
>>> I also love Alexandra. One of the best of the films that features
>>> a famous opera singer is The Search.  It stars Montgomery Clift and
>>> Jarmila Novotna. Monty plays an American soldier who meets and teaches
>>> English to a boy who seems to have lost all of his family in concentration
>>> camps during WW2.  He intends to adopt the boy and take him back to the U.
>>> =
>>> S.
>>> Jarmila is the boy's mother who has been searching for him.  At the end she
>>> recognizes him and calls out his name. They are finally reunited. =20
>>> 
>>> Tomorrow on TCM at 8 PM they are showing Fitzcarraldo - a really wonderful
>>> film that I venture to say would please all of us, bar none. Klaus Kinski
>>> takes the lead role.  At 12:30 PM on the same channel is America America.
>>> Not opera but a very moving film that I love.
>>> 
>>> Angelo from Boston=20
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On September 6, 2017 at 2:15 PM Rich Lowenthal <
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Personally, my favorite Melchior film was his first: "Thrill of a
>>> Romance=
>>> "
>>>> with leads Esther Williams and Van Johnson. (The film also features Tommy
>>>> Dorsey and his band). There is nothing quite like an Esther Williams
>>> film=
>>> ;
>>>> there is a kind of wonderful madness to the swimming numbers, and the
>>> fil=
>>> ms
>>>> (and Williams) are enormously likeable.
>>>> =20
>>>> Melchior reportedly loved making movies. The Met reportedly hated him
>>> mak=
>>> ing
>>>> movies.
>>>> =20
>>>> I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was
>>> =
>>> his
>>>> most unlikely role.=20
>>>> =20
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues
>>>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of G. Paul Padillo
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:47 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Opera Singers in Movies
>>>> =20
>>>> While not quite as broad a category as our prior =C2=93opera as
>>> movies=C2=
>>> =94 series,
>>>> it it's worth noting the number of opera singers who appeared in movies,
>>> =
>>> go
>>>> going all the way back to the silent era, some of which have been di
>>>> discussed in the earlier thread.
>>>> =20
>>>> Most singers didn=C2=92t successfully transfer their artistry from the
>>> st=
>>> age to
>>>> the screen, but some are definitely deserving of mention.
>>>> =20
>>>> Theresa Stratas made her film debut as =C2=93White Squaw=C2=94 in
>>> 1961=C2=
>>> =92s =C2=93The
>>>> Canadians=C2=94 directed by the great =C2=93Western=C2=94 filmmaker,
>>> Burt=
>>> Kennedy. =20
>>>> Outside of operatic (and operetta-ic) roles, she made relatively few
>>> othe=
>>> r
>>>> features, the most notable being 1997=C2=92s =C2=93Under the Piano=C2=94
>>> =
>>> with Amanda
>>>> Plummer.  Stratas won the Gemini Award (Canada's =C2=93Oscar=C2=94) for
>>> B=
>>> est
>>>> Supporting Actress for her role as Regina Basilio, a complicated former
>>> d=
>>> iva
>>>> who gave up stardom for family.  Despite the sacrifice, Regina almost
>>>> singlehandedly destroys the lives of her two daughters.  Stratas creates
>>> =
>>> a
>>>> difficult to love woman, hardboiled and tough as nails, whilst hiding a
>>>> tortured vulnerability and an almost phobic fear of life. =20
>>>> =20
>>>> While I=C2=92m generally leaving out non-operatic performances, Galina
>>>> Vishnevskaya=C2=92s performance as Katerina Ismailova already brought up
>>> =
>>> by
>>>> myself and others, cannot go unmentioned as it=C2=92s one of the most
>>> sea=
>>> ring,
>>>> intense performances =C2=96 sung or spoken, committed to celluloid.  Her
>>> =
>>> only
>>>> non-singing role is the title character of the great Russian director,
>>>> Alexander Sokurov=C2=92s film =C2=93Alexandra.=C2=94  While most
>>> American=
>>> s find his work
>>>> slow going, I happen to adore his films and =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 ranks
>>> u=
>>> p there with
>>>> his best work.  The fact this man, a titan outside of the world of opera,
>>>> wrote and directed this to honor Vishnevskaya is a genuine tribute to
>>> one=
>>> of
>>>> the 20th centuries greatest performing artists.  Stripped of her
>>> customar=
>>> y
>>>> glamor, Vishnevskaya=C2=92s Russian babushka is a tough, crotchety old
>>> wo=
>>> man who,
>>>> by any means necessary, (including a tank) makes what is likely her last
>>>> voyage, a visit to her grandson, a soldier serving in the Second Chechen
>>>> War.  Like his other work, Sokurov=C2=92s =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 raises
>>> ci=
>>> nematic
>>>> storytelling to the highest form of art, and worthy of this great diva. =
>>> =20
>>>> =20
>>>> Another great singer from the past century, Lauritz Melchior made a
>>> handf=
>>> ul
>>>> of films including 1942=C2=92s screwball =C2=93Luxury Liner=C2=94
>>> joining=
>>> up with George
>>>> Brent, Jane Powell and (wait for it) . . . Xavier Cugat!  Of his
>>> performa=
>>> nce
>>>> the NY Times=C2=92 Bosley Crowther wrote:
>>>> =20
>>>> =C2=93Mr. Melchior puts his bellows to work on anything from a snatch of
>>> =
>>> =C2=91Aida,=C2=94=20
>>>> to a Scandinavian drinking song.  The latter is highly appropriate, for
>>>> you=C2=92d think from  the way he drinks beer in great quaffs all the
>>> way=
>>> through
>>>> the picture that he was posing for a brewery ad=C2=94
>>>> =20
>>>> Crowther ends his review with:
>>>> =20
>>>> =C2=93Color, as usual, does something to make this Luxury Liner look
>>> brig=
>>> hter=20
>>>> than it is.  Batten down your hatches, if you board it.   You=C2=92re
>>> lik=
>>> ely to
>>>> find=20
>>>> the passage rough.=C2=94
>>>> =20
>>>> Youhza!
>>>> =20
>>>> Julia Migenes dabbled in film, most (un)notably in =C2=93Berlin Blues=C2=
>>> =94 a
>>>> hackneyed, romantic potboiler with the soprano as an American cabaret
>>> sin=
>>> ger
>>>> living in Berlin, when her pianist/boyfriend is shipped back to the East.
>>>> Contrived enough as it is, the film goes off kilter when a conductor
>>> frie=
>>> nd
>>>> tries to help Migenes establish herself as an opera singer.  I remember
>>>> barely staying awake through this in a DC Cineplex not long enough ago to
>>>> have forgotten it. =20
>>>> =20
>>>> While we primarily think of him as a =C2=93Hollywood Musical=C2=94
>>> actor,=
>>> Nelson Eddy
>>>> was a bona fide opera singer, with some impressive roles in  his
>>> repertoi=
>>> re,
>>>> including the U.S. premiere of two Strauss operas, =C2=93Ariadne auf
>>> Naxo=
>>> s=C2=94 and
>>>> =C2=93Feuersnot.=C2=94  Other impressive roles included the Drum Major
>>> (a=
>>> tenor
>>>> role!), Amonasro, Wolfram in =C2=93Tannh=C3=A4user=C2=94; Marcello;
>>> Count=
>>> Almaviva;
>>>> Pappageno; and most impressive (for my money) Gurnemanz in a Parsifal
>>>> conducted by Stowkowski (who conducted him in other works, as well).  He
>>> =
>>> was
>>>> also chosen to sing in the world premiere of=20
>>>> Respighi=C2=92s   =C2=93Maria Egiziaca=C2=94 conducted by the composer
>>> hi=
>>> mself, when the=20
>>>> scheduled maestro, Toscanini, bowed out at the last minute due to
>>> illness=
>>> .
>>>> =20
>>>> My favorite singer ever is Callas, but when I first saw Pasolini's
>>> "Medea=
>>> "=20
>>>> when I was a kid, I generally loathed everything about it.  I watched it
>>> =
>>> a
>>>> few more times, but it wasn't until I was "no longer young" that the
>>> film=
>>> fi
>>>> finally worked on me and now I watch it perhaps once a year and find
>>> more=
>>> to
>>>> to appreciate with each viewing.
>>>> =20
>>>> I'd be interested in seeing what other films people mention starring, or
>>>> featuring opera singers. =20
>>>> =20
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