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Subject: Re: OPERA-L Digest - 6 Sep 2017 - Special issue (#2017-870)
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I have heard that Caballe was a chain smoker at some point of her career


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From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Les Mitnick <[log in to unmask]>
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Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] OPERA-L Digest - 6 Sep 2017 - Special issue (#2017-870)

I've seen numerous photos of Maria Callas and Tito Gobbi smoking as well.
> On September 6, 2017 at 7:39 PM Gene Bowen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>
> Smoking:
> I may be mistaken---and hope that I am---but I think Charles Castronovo
> suffered  cigarette habituation.
>
> On Wed, Sep 6, 2017 at 8:05 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system <
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> > Topics in this special issue:
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> >   1. Opera Singers in Movies (3)
> >   2. nelson eddy smoking (2)
> >   3. Fw: nelson eddy smoking
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 15:38:00 -0400
> > From:    "G. Paul Padillo" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
> >
> > Rich brought up Eddy=92s participation as Orest in Elektra.   Until I saw=
> >  his=20
> > name on a pirate operatic recording some  30 odd years ago, I hadn=92t
> > a=20=
> >
> > clue he=92d legitimately performed in opera.  In fact I's thought od it a=
> > s=20
> > a joke.  Boy was I ever wrong.
> >
> > Eddy had written a screenplay based on the life of Chaliapin =96 which he=
> >  had=20
> > also planned to star in.  Had that happened, someone might have
> > invented=20=
> >
> > the phrase  (before me, now) =93Move over Great Caruso!=94=20
> >
> > Mr. Eddy admitted to learning/memorizing 35 opera roles, 31 of which he=92=
> > d=20
> > performed.=20=20
> >
> > His favorite opera was  =93Gotterdammerung=94 and his favorite composer, =
> > Wagner.
> >
> > Wagner.
> >
> > In an interview =93Nelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=94 he admitted=
> >  to=20
> > smoking.  He also admitted he thought Hollywood was not yet ready to=20
> > tackle the filming of complete operas stating:=20=20
> >
> > =93The studios should perfect and finish the job they=92re doing with thi=
> > ngs=20
> > like =93Maytime=94 before they start on the more difficult task of adapti=
> > ng=20
> > Wagner and Puccini.=94
> >
> > He was asked how old someone should be before they begin singing=20
> > lessons.=20=20
> >
> > =93For a boy, sixteen, after his voice has safely changed. A girl can sta=
> > rt at=20
> > fourteen or fifteen if she=92s precocious . . . and talented.=94
> >
> > Eddy=92s co-stars on film, stage or studio, included Maria Jeritza, (Salo=
> > me),=20=20
> > Amelita Galli-Curci, Rose Bampton, Helen Jepson, Ris=EB Stevens,
> > Eleanor=20=
> >
> > Steber, Dorothy Kirsten, Ingrid Bjoerner, and his maestros included=20
> > Stokowski. Toscanini, Reiner ns Respighi.
> >
> > A 1939 Chicago Tribune article announcing an upcoming recital at the Civi=
> > c=20
> > Opera House, mentions his leading roles in several operas, including =93B=
> > oris=20
> > Godunov,=94 but, outside of an aria, I=92ve never seen anything indicatin=
> > g Eddy=20
> > ever sang Boris =96 or =93in=94 Boris.=20=20
> >
> > Some of Nelson Eddy=92s other rose include:=20=20
> >
> > CAVALLERIA RUSTICANA - Alfio
> > LA NAVARRAISE - Bustamente
> > GIANNI SCHICCHI - Gianni Schicchi
> > SAMSON ET DELILAH - Abimelech & the High Priest
> > TANNHAUSER - Wolfram
> > MADAMA BUTTERFLY - Sharpless
> > ROMEO ET JULIETTE - Mercutio
> > LOHENGRIN - Herald
> > FEUERSNOT - Hammerlein
> > SECRET OF SUZANNE - Count Gil
> > L'AMORE DEI TRE RE - Manfredo
> > DIE MEISTERSINGER - Kothner
> > MANON LESCAUT - Lescaut
> > L'ENFANT PRODIGUE - Simeon
> > ORFEO ED EURYDICE -
> > DAS RHEINGOLD - Donner
> > GOTTERDAMMERUNG - Gunther
> > FAUST - Valentine
> > HANSEL AND GRETL - Peter
> > L'ELISIR D'AMORE - Belcore
> > ELEKTRA - Orestes
> > WOZZECK - Drum Major (Dramatic Tenor)
> > MARIA EGIZIACA - Abbot Zosimo and Pilgrim
> > SALOME - Jochanahan
> > PARSIFAL - Gurnemanz=20
> >
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:48:47 +0000
> > From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: nelson eddy smoking
> >
> >       From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
> >  To: [log in to unmask]
> >  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
> >  Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
> >   =20
> > In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=E2=80=9D
> > h=
> > e admitted to smoking.
> > Well,=C2=A0Nelson Eddy=C2=A0was a man.
> > (Quiz:=C2=A0 Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:17:33 -0400
> > From:    "Max D. Winter" <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
> >
> > Rich Lowenthal wrote:
> >
> > "I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was=
> >  his
> > most unlikely role."
> >
> > Well, for most of the opera, Elektra is essentially singing "I'm calling =
> > you-hoo-hoo-hoo" to=20
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:26:07 -0400
> > From:    daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
> >
> > Miss Snow from Mad TV?
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> > Donald (der andere)
> > > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > >      From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
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> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
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> > >=20
> > > In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
> > Questions,=E2=80=9D=
> >  he admitted to smoking.
> > > Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
> > > (Quiz:  Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:01:46 +0000
> > From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Fw: nelson eddy smoking
> >
> >     =20
> > ----- Forwarded Message -----
> >  From: Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
> >  To: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>=20
> >  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:59 PM
> >  Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
> >   =20
> > No.=C2=A0 Lily Pons was once on the Merv Griffin Show (probably more than
> > o=
> > nce actually).=C2=A0 They were probably talking about smoking=C2=A0but in
> > a=
> > ny event=C2=A0he mentioned that Caruso smoked to which she replied, "Well,
> > =
> > Caruso was a man."
> > I understand that Melchior was out smoking cigars and hunting before he
> > rec=
> > orded the Dawn Duet with Flagstad, and that that is the reason=C2=A0he
> > utte=
> > rs that famous gasp at the end of the recording.
> > Mike
> >
> >       From: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
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> > Cc: Opera-L <[log in to unmask]>
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> > Donald (der andere)
> > > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> > >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
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> > > In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
> > Questions,=E2=80=9D=
> >  he admitted to smoking.
> > > Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
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> > Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 20:05:53 -0400
> > From:    ANGELO MAMMANO <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
> >
> > I also love Alexandra. One of the best of the films that features
> > a famous opera singer is The Search.  It stars Montgomery Clift and
> > Jarmila Novotna. Monty plays an American soldier who meets and teaches
> > English to a boy who seems to have lost all of his family in concentration
> > camps during WW2.  He intends to adopt the boy and take him back to the U.
> > =
> > S.
> > Jarmila is the boy's mother who has been searching for him.  At the end she
> > recognizes him and calls out his name. They are finally reunited. =20
> >
> > Tomorrow on TCM at 8 PM they are showing Fitzcarraldo - a really wonderful
> > film that I venture to say would please all of us, bar none. Klaus Kinski
> > takes the lead role.  At 12:30 PM on the same channel is America America.
> > Not opera but a very moving film that I love.
> >
> > Angelo from Boston=20
> >
> >
> > > On September 6, 2017 at 2:15 PM Rich Lowenthal <
> > [log in to unmask]
> > > wrote:
> > >=20
> > >=20
> > > Personally, my favorite Melchior film was his first: "Thrill of a
> > Romance=
> > "
> > > with leads Esther Williams and Van Johnson. (The film also features Tommy
> > > Dorsey and his band). There is nothing quite like an Esther Williams
> > film=
> > ;
> > > there is a kind of wonderful madness to the swimming numbers, and the
> > fil=
> > ms
> > > (and Williams) are enormously likeable.
> > >=20
> > > Melchior reportedly loved making movies. The Met reportedly hated him
> > mak=
> > ing
> > > movies.
> > >=20
> > > I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was
> > =
> > his
> > > most unlikely role.=20
> > >=20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Discussion of opera and related issues
> > > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of G. Paul Padillo
> > > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:47 AM
> > > To: [log in to unmask]
> > > Subject: Opera Singers in Movies
> > >=20
> > > While not quite as broad a category as our prior =C2=93opera as
> > movies=C2=
> > =94 series,
> > > it it's worth noting the number of opera singers who appeared in movies,
> > =
> > go
> > > going all the way back to the silent era, some of which have been di
> > > discussed in the earlier thread.
> > >=20
> > > Most singers didn=C2=92t successfully transfer their artistry from the
> > st=
> > age to
> > > the screen, but some are definitely deserving of mention.
> > >=20
> > > Theresa Stratas made her film debut as =C2=93White Squaw=C2=94 in
> > 1961=C2=
> > =92s =C2=93The
> > > Canadians=C2=94 directed by the great =C2=93Western=C2=94 filmmaker,
> > Burt=
> >  Kennedy. =20
> > > Outside of operatic (and operetta-ic) roles, she made relatively few
> > othe=
> > r
> > > features, the most notable being 1997=C2=92s =C2=93Under the Piano=C2=94
> > =
> > with Amanda
> > > Plummer.  Stratas won the Gemini Award (Canada's =C2=93Oscar=C2=94) for
> > B=
> > est
> > > Supporting Actress for her role as Regina Basilio, a complicated former
> > d=
> > iva
> > > who gave up stardom for family.  Despite the sacrifice, Regina almost
> > > singlehandedly destroys the lives of her two daughters.  Stratas creates
> > =
> > a
> > > difficult to love woman, hardboiled and tough as nails, whilst hiding a
> > > tortured vulnerability and an almost phobic fear of life. =20
> > >=20
> > > While I=C2=92m generally leaving out non-operatic performances, Galina
> > > Vishnevskaya=C2=92s performance as Katerina Ismailova already brought up
> > =
> > by
> > > myself and others, cannot go unmentioned as it=C2=92s one of the most
> > sea=
> > ring,
> > > intense performances =C2=96 sung or spoken, committed to celluloid.  Her
> > =
> > only
> > > non-singing role is the title character of the great Russian director,
> > > Alexander Sokurov=C2=92s film =C2=93Alexandra.=C2=94  While most
> > American=
> > s find his work
> > > slow going, I happen to adore his films and =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 ranks
> > u=
> > p there with
> > > his best work.  The fact this man, a titan outside of the world of opera,
> > > wrote and directed this to honor Vishnevskaya is a genuine tribute to
> > one=
> >  of
> > > the 20th centuries greatest performing artists.  Stripped of her
> > customar=
> > y
> > > glamor, Vishnevskaya=C2=92s Russian babushka is a tough, crotchety old
> > wo=
> > man who,
> > > by any means necessary, (including a tank) makes what is likely her last
> > > voyage, a visit to her grandson, a soldier serving in the Second Chechen
> > > War.  Like his other work, Sokurov=C2=92s =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 raises
> > ci=
> > nematic
> > > storytelling to the highest form of art, and worthy of this great diva. =
> > =20
> > >=20
> > > Another great singer from the past century, Lauritz Melchior made a
> > handf=
> > ul
> > > of films including 1942=C2=92s screwball =C2=93Luxury Liner=C2=94
> > joining=
> >  up with George
> > > Brent, Jane Powell and (wait for it) . . . Xavier Cugat!  Of his
> > performa=
> > nce
> > > the NY Times=C2=92 Bosley Crowther wrote:
> > >=20
> > > =C2=93Mr. Melchior puts his bellows to work on anything from a snatch of
> > =
> > =C2=91Aida,=C2=94=20
> > > to a Scandinavian drinking song.  The latter is highly appropriate, for
> > > you=C2=92d think from  the way he drinks beer in great quaffs all the
> > way=
> >  through
> > > the picture that he was posing for a brewery ad=C2=94
> > >=20
> > > Crowther ends his review with:
> > >=20
> > > =C2=93Color, as usual, does something to make this Luxury Liner look
> > brig=
> > hter=20
> > > than it is.  Batten down your hatches, if you board it.   You=C2=92re
> > lik=
> > ely to
> > > find=20
> > > the passage rough.=C2=94
> > >=20
> > > Youhza!
> > >=20
> > > Julia Migenes dabbled in film, most (un)notably in =C2=93Berlin Blues=C2=
> > =94 a
> > > hackneyed, romantic potboiler with the soprano as an American cabaret
> > sin=
> > ger
> > > living in Berlin, when her pianist/boyfriend is shipped back to the East.
> > > Contrived enough as it is, the film goes off kilter when a conductor
> > frie=
> > nd
> > > tries to help Migenes establish herself as an opera singer.  I remember
> > > barely staying awake through this in a DC Cineplex not long enough ago to
> > > have forgotten it. =20
> > >=20
> > > While we primarily think of him as a =C2=93Hollywood Musical=C2=94
> > actor,=
> >  Nelson Eddy
> > > was a bona fide opera singer, with some impressive roles in  his
> > repertoi=
> > re,
> > > including the U.S. premiere of two Strauss operas, =C2=93Ariadne auf
> > Naxo=
> > s=C2=94 and
> > > =C2=93Feuersnot.=C2=94  Other impressive roles included the Drum Major
> > (a=
> >  tenor
> > > role!), Amonasro, Wolfram in =C2=93Tannh=C3=A4user=C2=94; Marcello;
> > Count=
> >  Almaviva;
> > > Pappageno; and most impressive (for my money) Gurnemanz in a Parsifal
> > > conducted by Stowkowski (who conducted him in other works, as well).  He
> > =
> > was
> > > also chosen to sing in the world premiere of=20
> > > Respighi=C2=92s   =C2=93Maria Egiziaca=C2=94 conducted by the composer
> > hi=
> > mself, when the=20
> > > scheduled maestro, Toscanini, bowed out at the last minute due to
> > illness=
> > .
> > >=20
> > > My favorite singer ever is Callas, but when I first saw Pasolini's
> > "Medea=
> > "=20
> > > when I was a kid, I generally loathed everything about it.  I watched it
> > =
> > a
> > > few more times, but it wasn't until I was "no longer young" that the
> > film=
> >  fi
> > > finally worked on me and now I watch it perhaps once a year and find
> > more=
> >  to
> > > to appreciate with each viewing.
> > >=20
> > > I'd be interested in seeing what other films people mention starring, or
> > > featuring opera singers. =20
> > >=20
> > > p.
> > >=20
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