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Subject: Re: OPERA-L Digest - 6 Sep 2017 - Special issue (#2017-870)
From: Gene Bowen <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Wed, 6 Sep 2017 20:39:52 -0400
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Smoking:
I may be mistaken---and hope that I am---but I think Charles Castronovo
suffered  cigarette habituation.

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> Topics in this special issue:
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>   1. Opera Singers in Movies (3)
>   2. nelson eddy smoking (2)
>   3. Fw: nelson eddy smoking
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 15:38:00 -0400
> From:    "G. Paul Padillo" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>
> Rich brought up Eddy=92s participation as Orest in Elektra.   Until I saw=
>  his=20
> name on a pirate operatic recording some  30 odd years ago, I hadn=92t
> a=20=
>
> clue he=92d legitimately performed in opera.  In fact I's thought od it a=
> s=20
> a joke.  Boy was I ever wrong.
>
> Eddy had written a screenplay based on the life of Chaliapin =96 which he=
>  had=20
> also planned to star in.  Had that happened, someone might have
> invented=20=
>
> the phrase  (before me, now) =93Move over Great Caruso!=94=20
>
> Mr. Eddy admitted to learning/memorizing 35 opera roles, 31 of which he=92=
> d=20
> performed.=20=20
>
> His favorite opera was  =93Gotterdammerung=94 and his favorite composer, =
> Wagner.
>
> Wagner.
>
> In an interview =93Nelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=94 he admitted=
>  to=20
> smoking.  He also admitted he thought Hollywood was not yet ready to=20
> tackle the filming of complete operas stating:=20=20
>
> =93The studios should perfect and finish the job they=92re doing with thi=
> ngs=20
> like =93Maytime=94 before they start on the more difficult task of adapti=
> ng=20
> Wagner and Puccini.=94
>
> He was asked how old someone should be before they begin singing=20
> lessons.=20=20
>
> =93For a boy, sixteen, after his voice has safely changed. A girl can sta=
> rt at=20
> fourteen or fifteen if she=92s precocious . . . and talented.=94
>
> Eddy=92s co-stars on film, stage or studio, included Maria Jeritza, (Salo=
> me),=20=20
> Amelita Galli-Curci, Rose Bampton, Helen Jepson, Ris=EB Stevens,
> Eleanor=20=
>
> Steber, Dorothy Kirsten, Ingrid Bjoerner, and his maestros included=20
> Stokowski. Toscanini, Reiner ns Respighi.
>
> A 1939 Chicago Tribune article announcing an upcoming recital at the Civi=
> c=20
> Opera House, mentions his leading roles in several operas, including =93B=
> oris=20
> Godunov,=94 but, outside of an aria, I=92ve never seen anything indicatin=
> g Eddy=20
> ever sang Boris =96 or =93in=94 Boris.=20=20
>
> Some of Nelson Eddy=92s other rose include:=20=20
>
> CAVALLERIA RUSTICANA - Alfio
> LA NAVARRAISE - Bustamente
> GIANNI SCHICCHI - Gianni Schicchi
> SAMSON ET DELILAH - Abimelech & the High Priest
> TANNHAUSER - Wolfram
> MADAMA BUTTERFLY - Sharpless
> ROMEO ET JULIETTE - Mercutio
> LOHENGRIN - Herald
> FEUERSNOT - Hammerlein
> SECRET OF SUZANNE - Count Gil
> L'AMORE DEI TRE RE - Manfredo
> DIE MEISTERSINGER - Kothner
> MANON LESCAUT - Lescaut
> L'ENFANT PRODIGUE - Simeon
> ORFEO ED EURYDICE -
> DAS RHEINGOLD - Donner
> GOTTERDAMMERUNG - Gunther
> FAUST - Valentine
> HANSEL AND GRETL - Peter
> L'ELISIR D'AMORE - Belcore
> ELEKTRA - Orestes
> WOZZECK - Drum Major (Dramatic Tenor)
> MARIA EGIZIACA - Abbot Zosimo and Pilgrim
> SALOME - Jochanahan
> PARSIFAL - Gurnemanz=20
>
> P.
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 19:48:47 +0000
> From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: nelson eddy smoking
>
>       From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
>  To: [log in to unmask]
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
>  Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>   =20
> In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your Questions,=E2=80=9D
> h=
> e admitted to smoking.
> Well,=C2=A0Nelson Eddy=C2=A0was a man.
> (Quiz:=C2=A0 Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
> Mike Leone
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:17:33 -0400
> From:    "Max D. Winter" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>
> Rich Lowenthal wrote:
>
> "I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was=
>  his
> most unlikely role."
>
> Well, for most of the opera, Elektra is essentially singing "I'm calling =
> you-hoo-hoo-hoo" to=20
> Orestes.
>
> MDW
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 16:26:07 -0400
> From:    daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
>
> Miss Snow from Mad TV?
>
> Donald (der andere)
> > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >=20
> >      From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
> >=20
> > In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
> Questions,=E2=80=9D=
>  he admitted to smoking.
> > Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
> > (Quiz:  Who knows what I am referring to with that statement?)
> > Mike Leone
> > [log in to unmask]
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 21:01:46 +0000
> From:    Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Fw: nelson eddy smoking
>
>     =20
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
>  From: Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>
>  To: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>=20
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:59 PM
>  Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
>   =20
> No.=C2=A0 Lily Pons was once on the Merv Griffin Show (probably more than
> o=
> nce actually).=C2=A0 They were probably talking about smoking=C2=A0but in
> a=
> ny event=C2=A0he mentioned that Caruso smoked to which she replied, "Well,
> =
> Caruso was a man."
> I understand that Melchior was out smoking cigars and hunting before he
> rec=
> orded the Dawn Duet with Flagstad, and that that is the reason=C2=A0he
> utte=
> rs that famous gasp at the end of the recording.
> Mike
>
>       From: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
>  To: Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]>=20
> Cc: Opera-L <[log in to unmask]>
>  Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 3:26 PM
>  Subject: Re: nelson eddy smoking
>  =20
> Miss Snow from Mad TV?
>
> Donald (der andere)
> > On Sep 6, 2017, at 3:48 PM, Mike Leone <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >=20
> >=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: G. Paul Padillo <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 2:38 PM
> > Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
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> > In an interview =E2=80=9CNelson Eddy Answers All Your
> Questions,=E2=80=9D=
>  he admitted to smoking.
> > Well, Nelson Eddy was a man.
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> Date:    Wed, 6 Sep 2017 20:05:53 -0400
> From:    ANGELO MAMMANO <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opera Singers in Movies
>
> I also love Alexandra. One of the best of the films that features
> a famous opera singer is The Search.  It stars Montgomery Clift and
> Jarmila Novotna. Monty plays an American soldier who meets and teaches
> English to a boy who seems to have lost all of his family in concentration
> camps during WW2.  He intends to adopt the boy and take him back to the U.
> =
> S.
> Jarmila is the boy's mother who has been searching for him.  At the end she
> recognizes him and calls out his name. They are finally reunited. =20
>
> Tomorrow on TCM at 8 PM they are showing Fitzcarraldo - a really wonderful
> film that I venture to say would please all of us, bar none. Klaus Kinski
> takes the lead role.  At 12:30 PM on the same channel is America America.
> Not opera but a very moving film that I love.
>
> Angelo from Boston=20
>
>
> > On September 6, 2017 at 2:15 PM Rich Lowenthal <
> [log in to unmask]
> > wrote:
> >=20
> >=20
> > Personally, my favorite Melchior film was his first: "Thrill of a
> Romance=
> "
> > with leads Esther Williams and Van Johnson. (The film also features Tommy
> > Dorsey and his band). There is nothing quite like an Esther Williams
> film=
> ;
> > there is a kind of wonderful madness to the swimming numbers, and the
> fil=
> ms
> > (and Williams) are enormously likeable.
> >=20
> > Melchior reportedly loved making movies. The Met reportedly hated him
> mak=
> ing
> > movies.
> >=20
> > I would add on Nelson Eddy that he also sang Orest. To my mind, that was
> =
> his
> > most unlikely role.=20
> >=20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Discussion of opera and related issues
> > [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of G. Paul Padillo
> > Sent: Wednesday, September 6, 2017 11:47 AM
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Opera Singers in Movies
> >=20
> > While not quite as broad a category as our prior =C2=93opera as
> movies=C2=
> =94 series,
> > it it's worth noting the number of opera singers who appeared in movies,
> =
> go
> > going all the way back to the silent era, some of which have been di
> > discussed in the earlier thread.
> >=20
> > Most singers didn=C2=92t successfully transfer their artistry from the
> st=
> age to
> > the screen, but some are definitely deserving of mention.
> >=20
> > Theresa Stratas made her film debut as =C2=93White Squaw=C2=94 in
> 1961=C2=
> =92s =C2=93The
> > Canadians=C2=94 directed by the great =C2=93Western=C2=94 filmmaker,
> Burt=
>  Kennedy. =20
> > Outside of operatic (and operetta-ic) roles, she made relatively few
> othe=
> r
> > features, the most notable being 1997=C2=92s =C2=93Under the Piano=C2=94
> =
> with Amanda
> > Plummer.  Stratas won the Gemini Award (Canada's =C2=93Oscar=C2=94) for
> B=
> est
> > Supporting Actress for her role as Regina Basilio, a complicated former
> d=
> iva
> > who gave up stardom for family.  Despite the sacrifice, Regina almost
> > singlehandedly destroys the lives of her two daughters.  Stratas creates
> =
> a
> > difficult to love woman, hardboiled and tough as nails, whilst hiding a
> > tortured vulnerability and an almost phobic fear of life. =20
> >=20
> > While I=C2=92m generally leaving out non-operatic performances, Galina
> > Vishnevskaya=C2=92s performance as Katerina Ismailova already brought up
> =
> by
> > myself and others, cannot go unmentioned as it=C2=92s one of the most
> sea=
> ring,
> > intense performances =C2=96 sung or spoken, committed to celluloid.  Her
> =
> only
> > non-singing role is the title character of the great Russian director,
> > Alexander Sokurov=C2=92s film =C2=93Alexandra.=C2=94  While most
> American=
> s find his work
> > slow going, I happen to adore his films and =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 ranks
> u=
> p there with
> > his best work.  The fact this man, a titan outside of the world of opera,
> > wrote and directed this to honor Vishnevskaya is a genuine tribute to
> one=
>  of
> > the 20th centuries greatest performing artists.  Stripped of her
> customar=
> y
> > glamor, Vishnevskaya=C2=92s Russian babushka is a tough, crotchety old
> wo=
> man who,
> > by any means necessary, (including a tank) makes what is likely her last
> > voyage, a visit to her grandson, a soldier serving in the Second Chechen
> > War.  Like his other work, Sokurov=C2=92s =C2=93Alexandra=C2=94 raises
> ci=
> nematic
> > storytelling to the highest form of art, and worthy of this great diva. =
> =20
> >=20
> > Another great singer from the past century, Lauritz Melchior made a
> handf=
> ul
> > of films including 1942=C2=92s screwball =C2=93Luxury Liner=C2=94
> joining=
>  up with George
> > Brent, Jane Powell and (wait for it) . . . Xavier Cugat!  Of his
> performa=
> nce
> > the NY Times=C2=92 Bosley Crowther wrote:
> >=20
> > =C2=93Mr. Melchior puts his bellows to work on anything from a snatch of
> =
> =C2=91Aida,=C2=94=20
> > to a Scandinavian drinking song.  The latter is highly appropriate, for
> > you=C2=92d think from  the way he drinks beer in great quaffs all the
> way=
>  through
> > the picture that he was posing for a brewery ad=C2=94
> >=20
> > Crowther ends his review with:
> >=20
> > =C2=93Color, as usual, does something to make this Luxury Liner look
> brig=
> hter=20
> > than it is.  Batten down your hatches, if you board it.   You=C2=92re
> lik=
> ely to
> > find=20
> > the passage rough.=C2=94
> >=20
> > Youhza!
> >=20
> > Julia Migenes dabbled in film, most (un)notably in =C2=93Berlin Blues=C2=
> =94 a
> > hackneyed, romantic potboiler with the soprano as an American cabaret
> sin=
> ger
> > living in Berlin, when her pianist/boyfriend is shipped back to the East.
> > Contrived enough as it is, the film goes off kilter when a conductor
> frie=
> nd
> > tries to help Migenes establish herself as an opera singer.  I remember
> > barely staying awake through this in a DC Cineplex not long enough ago to
> > have forgotten it. =20
> >=20
> > While we primarily think of him as a =C2=93Hollywood Musical=C2=94
> actor,=
>  Nelson Eddy
> > was a bona fide opera singer, with some impressive roles in  his
> repertoi=
> re,
> > including the U.S. premiere of two Strauss operas, =C2=93Ariadne auf
> Naxo=
> s=C2=94 and
> > =C2=93Feuersnot.=C2=94  Other impressive roles included the Drum Major
> (a=
>  tenor
> > role!), Amonasro, Wolfram in =C2=93Tannh=C3=A4user=C2=94; Marcello;
> Count=
>  Almaviva;
> > Pappageno; and most impressive (for my money) Gurnemanz in a Parsifal
> > conducted by Stowkowski (who conducted him in other works, as well).  He
> =
> was
> > also chosen to sing in the world premiere of=20
> > Respighi=C2=92s   =C2=93Maria Egiziaca=C2=94 conducted by the composer
> hi=
> mself, when the=20
> > scheduled maestro, Toscanini, bowed out at the last minute due to
> illness=
> .
> >=20
> > My favorite singer ever is Callas, but when I first saw Pasolini's
> "Medea=
> "=20
> > when I was a kid, I generally loathed everything about it.  I watched it
> =
> a
> > few more times, but it wasn't until I was "no longer young" that the
> film=
>  fi
> > finally worked on me and now I watch it perhaps once a year and find
> more=
>  to
> > to appreciate with each viewing.
> >=20
> > I'd be interested in seeing what other films people mention starring, or
> > featuring opera singers. =20
> >=20
> > p.
> >=20
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