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Subject: Re: Fascinating article with Jonas Kaufmann from Australia
From: Charles Mintzer <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Charles Mintzer <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 4 Aug 2017 21:32:51 -0400
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Melchior sang Otello with the San Francisco Opera on December 5, 1934, with Rethberg and Bonelli.
Charles Mintzer

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 9:24 PM, Kenneth Bleeth <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Max,
> 
> It seems unlikely that your late friend heard *Otello* with this cast.
> Melchior never sang the role at the Met. He did perform it at Covent Garden
> in the 1930s, but not with Rethberg or Tibbett. Perhaps his Otello was
> Martinelli, who was joined by Rethberg and Tibbett in numerous Met
> performances from 1937 until 1941.
> 
> Ken Bleeth
> 
> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 8:12 PM, Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
>> At least from what we can tell on records, Tamagno's sound was anything
>> but baritonal. Very bright and "tenory."  Somewhat akin (just speaking of
>> pure timbre) to what Simon O'Neill sounded like in the LSO concert version
>> under Colin Davis.
>> 
>> On the other hand, the overall tessitura is quite low; like Siegmund with
>> a few really high notes. A departed friend told me that one of the greatest
>> performances he heard was with Melchior, Rethberg and, I think, Tibbett in
>> the late 1930s.
>> 
>> Max Paley
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 16:27, Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> There is something to be said for this.  Otello at the Met in the 20th
>>> century included Leo Slezak in 1913 and then nothing until Giovanni
>>> Martinelli did it in 1938.  Then there was Torsten Ralf, Set Svanholm and
>>> Ramon Vinay then Del Monaco and after him Vickers, McCracken, and
>> Domingo.
>>> Yes there were others, notably in  Europe Carlo Cossutta a contemporary
>> of
>>> Domingo but today its it becoming almost a repertory piece.  Norma too
>> From
>>> Lilli Lehman in the 1880's and 1890's through Joan Sutherland in 1970,
>> only
>>> Lehmann herself, Ponselle, Cigna, Milanov and Callas.  After Sutherland,
>>> everyone and her grandmother tried her hand at the role.  Now we have
>> lyric
>>> soprano's as Norma, mezzo soprano's as Norma.  I'm waiting for the
>>> countertenor to take it on.
>>> 
>>> Donald
>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Kubiak <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I heard Kaufmann in Chicago as Cassio with one of the "struggling"
>>>> Otello's,
>>>> in this case Ben Heppner, and he did sound a good deal better than the
>> star
>>>> at that troubled point in his career.  But it is interesting how the
>>>> mystique of this part has completely disappeared.  Richard Tucker had
>> the
>>>> traditional view that only a very special kind of tenor should dare
>>>> approach
>>>> it, and felt that he did not have that voice.  Now everybody sings it
>> as if
>>>> it were Rodolfo.
>>>> 
>>>> Some older singer has made the same point about 'Norma', I think.
>>>> 
>>>> David Kubiak
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