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Subject: Re: Fascinating article with Jonas Kaufmann from Australia
From: Charles Mintzer <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Charles Mintzer <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 5 Aug 2017 05:28:48 -0400
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American tenor Charles Marshall, who made no recordings, sang Otello 38 times at the Chicago Opera between 1920 and 1931, most of them with Rosa Raisa and Claudia Muzio.
Charles Mintzer

> On Aug 4, 2017, at 8:12 PM, Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> At least from what we can tell on records, Tamagno's sound was anything but baritonal. Very bright and "tenory."  Somewhat akin (just speaking of pure timbre) to what Simon O'Neill sounded like in the LSO concert version under Colin Davis.
> 
> On the other hand, the overall tessitura is quite low; like Siegmund with a few really high notes. A departed friend told me that one of the greatest performances he heard was with Melchior, Rethberg and, I think, Tibbett in the late 1930s.
> 
> Max Paley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Aug 4, 2017, at 16:27, Donald Levine <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> There is something to be said for this.  Otello at the Met in the 20th
>> century included Leo Slezak in 1913 and then nothing until Giovanni
>> Martinelli did it in 1938.  Then there was Torsten Ralf, Set Svanholm and
>> Ramon Vinay then Del Monaco and after him Vickers, McCracken, and Domingo.
>> Yes there were others, notably in  Europe Carlo Cossutta a contemporary of
>> Domingo but today its it becoming almost a repertory piece.  Norma too From
>> Lilli Lehman in the 1880's and 1890's through Joan Sutherland in 1970, only
>> Lehmann herself, Ponselle, Cigna, Milanov and Callas.  After Sutherland,
>> everyone and her grandmother tried her hand at the role.  Now we have lyric
>> soprano's as Norma, mezzo soprano's as Norma.  I'm waiting for the
>> countertenor to take it on.
>> 
>> Donald
>> 
>>> On Fri, Aug 4, 2017 at 3:57 PM, David Kubiak <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I heard Kaufmann in Chicago as Cassio with one of the "struggling"
>>> Otello's,
>>> in this case Ben Heppner, and he did sound a good deal better than the star
>>> at that troubled point in his career.  But it is interesting how the
>>> mystique of this part has completely disappeared.  Richard Tucker had the
>>> traditional view that only a very special kind of tenor should dare
>>> approach
>>> it, and felt that he did not have that voice.  Now everybody sings it as if
>>> it were Rodolfo.
>>> 
>>> Some older singer has made the same point about 'Norma', I think.
>>> 
>>> David Kubiak
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