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Subject: Re: question
From: daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:daaaac <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sun, 30 Jul 2017 02:46:53 -0400
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It’s a hgh B is the last not of the battlecry.  She touches high C twice before the end.

Donald
> On Jul 30, 2017, at 1:53 AM, Les Mitnick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> 
> Will someone please be so kind as to answer the following question:
>     In the opening of Act II of "Die Walkure", is Brunnhilde's ultimate high note a top B or a 
> top C???  I'm referring to the Battle Cry, of course.  Helen Traubel simply didn't own a high 
> C from the very beginning, and though Flagstad took them regularly from 1935 to 1941, she 
> stopped taking them after her return in 1947).  Yet both of them appeared in many Ring 
> performances in the late 1940s and Flagstad did the 1950 Furtwangler Ring as well as a 
> complete Ring at the Met as late as 1951, as did Traubel.  Later, of course, these notes were 
> never an issue or problem for Birgit Nilsson.
>     Were transpositions made for them?  John Culshaw cited Flagstad's refusal to sing a 
> complete recorded Walkure in 1957 (and instead recorded Act I and Act III separately, the 
> results of which were critically acclaimed.  Culshaw also cited Flagstad's recalcitrance about 
> Isolde's lightning top Cs in Act II of Tristan Und Isolde (those two infamous notes that could 
> have been left out altogether, but which Schwarzkopf "dubbed in").  He then said that since 
> she no longer had a top C, a complete Walkure in 1957 was impossible.
>     But are those Battle Cry notes in the opening of Walkure Bs or Cs??  If they're written as 
> Cs, they were obviously transposed one step down.  If they're Bs, then they were sung as 
> written.  Culshaw's statements confused me.
>     I tend to think they're Bs because I can't imagine Wagner being transposed downwards 
> in the 1940s.  
>     I hope I'm making sense here.
> 
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