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Subject: oft-misquoted titles
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 3 Jun 2017 13:30:49 -0400
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One that many very "knowing" people misstate is
Schubert's "Die Winterreise". It takes no article,
either by gender or neutral. It's just plain "Winterreise".

Bob

On Saturday, June 3, 2017, Mark Bartelt <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> OK, I admit that I'm "putting on my pedant hat" here,
> but one thing that I've wondered about for quite some
> time is why various works are often referred to by a
> title which includes a "The" at the beginning, which
> isn't really part of the title.
>
> For example, somebody might say "we're going to hear
> The Messiah this weekend".  Um, no; well, unless the
> Second Coming has been scheduled for then.  The name
> of Handel's work is "Messiah".
>
> And turning to things operatic, there are numerous
> times when I've seen a reference to "I Pagliacci";
> even by opera houses on occasion.  Nope; the title
> is just "Pagliacci".
>
> Seen less frequently, but occasionally, is a "Die"
> in front of "Götterdämmerung".  I'd have expected
> this mistake to be less common in Germany, but it
> happens even there; for example the following page
> for a broadcast this Sunday:
>
>  https://www.br-klassik.de/programm/radio/ausstrahlung-1048648.html
>
> Which leads to my questions:  First, why is it the
> case that people who are often so compulsive about
> trying hard not to mis-speak about other things can
> misremember the correct titles of famous works?
>
> Secondly, are there any other compositions (opera or
> other) whose titles frequently get misremembered in
> this way?  (Either a superfluous "The" where there's
> not supposed to be one, or a missing "The" where one
> should be present, or similar.)
>
> OK, I'll take my pedant hat back off now (for a while,
> at least ;-) ...
>
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