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Subject: Re: Pretentious Quotes
From: Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 14 Mar 2017 23:54:43 -0400

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Boy how you do seem to be (*seem* to be???) obsessed with some fabricated "class 
system" of operas and with "serious study" of opera. So many of your quote-pulling posts 
seem to echo these concepts. One would think by now you'd want to talk about something 
else, lol. 

That said - in the world at large (i.e. not in our little opera-obsessed bubble), there is most 
likely no such thing as "middlebrow" opera. For lots of people, opera in general *is* boring, 
partially because it's seen as being so pretentiously highbrow. We know that perception is 
wrong, but still that perception exists. (And the same goes for perceptions about classical 
music in general, of course.)

Ironically, I think it's only the most self-important, self-proclaimed "highbrow" opera fans 
who rate popular operas as "boringly middlebrow." Personally, I find those kind of so-called 
opera fans boringly faux-highbrow, and really don't want to have anything to do with them. 

I like a good mix of the standards AND the more obscure, adventurous rep, as I assume 
most all of us do (save you and Mr. Grossman, lol). I see no problem in that. I think Mr. 
Grossman should be permanently locked in a padded cell with some of that typical 
Hollywood fodder (whatever that means) and some really boring Aida Boheme and 
Carmen. I think that would be proper Mikado-like punishment. ;-)

On Tue, 14 Mar 2017 22:55:54 -0400, Genevieve Castle Room 
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>>1) Most works in the standard (i.e., boringly middlebrow) operatic
>repertoire do not warrant serious study and deserve to be seen no more than
>typical Hollywood fodder.
>(Andrew Grossman)

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