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Subject: Re: Puritani - today, from the Met
From: Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 18 Feb 2017 20:33:22 -0500
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No, it is not an aria, It is part of an ensemble, which, in sum, is at
least as
much a  part of  the "so called aria" as Is his music. Your turn, I
wouldn't if I were you. It is not an aria!   It is not cllose!

Bob

On Saturday, February 18, 2017, Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Speaking in accepted general terms, "A Te O Cara" is most certainly an
> aria. What else
> would you call it?
>
> If you're saying it can't be an aria because other people sing during it,
> then neither are
> "Recondita Armonia" or "Il Lacerato Spirito" or "Quando M'en Vo," nor all
> the many solo
> pieces with choral involvement, etc. (And all of these, of course, can be
> sung out of
> context without the other voices, on recitals, recordings, etc - and often
> are.)
>
> If you're saying it's not in the "form" of an aria - well, there is no one
> musical structure to
> an aria. Arias come in many forms - and not just the formal structures
> like da capo and
> cavatina/cabaletta.
>
> And though I'm not aware of what the official Italian terms would be, but
> if this were
> French opera, the title page of what would be "A te O Cara" would probably
> say "couplets"
> - because it's 2 refrains of the melody.
>
> It's an aria. ;-)
>
>
> Rather - here's an interesting (and odd) argument - Camarena said on the
> broadcast
> interview that he doesn't think "A Te O Cara" is passionate.
> (transcription below.) I tend to
> think most if not all of us would disagree, lol. Discuss...;-)
>
> ("I don't think it's passionate. It's really a way to say [to] her that
> she's the thing...she's
> the person who make[s] him believe again in love...and it's almost like a
> declaration, so
> it's not so passionate, and it's more tender, more...singing actually to
> her, and to himself,
> because he remembers all the sorrows he had before...so, I just think
> about that - about
> the love this guy must be feeling to tell these words to Elvira, so it's a
> matter of let[ting]
> go of yourself with the melody and the text.")
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, 18 Feb 2017 17:21:39 -0500, Bob Rideout <[log in to unmask]
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> >Today's performance had some knockout moments, mainly
> >provided by Javier Camerana.  He was wonderful in "A te o cara"
> >(would someone please tell the announcers that it is not an aria)
>
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