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Subject: Robert White
From: Peter Bloch <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:53:05 -0500
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I only "knew" him through his posts, which were always generous and very informative.  It's a great loss to all, but of course especially to his dear friends.  My deepest sympathy to all of you.

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> On Dec 16, 2016, at 12:22 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> There are 8 messages totalling 502 lines in this issue.
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> Topics in this special issue:
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>  1. L'Amour de Loin
>  2. R.I.P. Robert White (3)
>  3. Robert White and Opera-L
>  4. My holiday gift to myself. What's yours?
>  5. Pol Plancon sings Cantique de Noel
>  6. Sirius Schedule: Friday to Sunday. 12/16 to 18
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:27:50 -0500
> From:    donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: L'Amour de Loin
> 
> I gave it twenty minutes; a waste of time.  Maybe it's a generational
> thing, but  I "got" DIE MEISTERSINGER instantly, or at least what was
> avilailable of it when I was about 18, including the entire third act
> magnificently recorded complete in the late thirties by Karl Bohm.
> The great Beecham recording of ZAUBERFLOTE, complete, was also
> no trouble for me around the same time, nor was PARSIFAL from the
> live Knappertsbusch performance of 1951.  It was, for me, the Italian
> works of Verdi, Mozart, and even Puccini, that had to wait, though I now
> regard the latter as the foremost Italian composer of anything, ever.  As
> for Handel; he's still waiting.
> 
> There will be exceptions taken, I know, to this kind of venting, at this
> particular time; some don't approve of it at any time.  But it's always
> been, as Robert White's invaluable contributions were, one of the perennial
> pleasures of this forum.  We all like to sort of "profile"ourselves in this
> manner, to be a little provocative, boastful, apologetic,  or contentious,
> and compare the differences.   Anymore?
> 
> dtmk
> 
> On Sun, Dec 11, 2016 at 6:47 PM, Marty Clesceri <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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>> I listened to about 10 minutes of the radio broadcast and turned it off as
>> totally uninteresting.  I can't think of one modern opera that I like and
>> this is just another one.  I've found going to the theater to see the HD
>> broadcasts or one live is a waste of time and money.  I'll take the
>> masters'
>> compositions any day!!
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:33:10 -0500
> From:    Kathy Boyce <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: R.I.P. Robert White
> 
> I am so sorry to hear this.  I only knew him through this list and 
> private email conversations I had with him. He hadn't posted recently, 
> and I wondered if he were all right.  He was a generous human being and 
> his passing is a loss to us all.  My thoughts are with you, David.
> 
> Kathy Boyce
> New Hampshire
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> www.cafepress.com/operabayreuth
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> And the night shall be filled with music......        Longfellow
> 
>> On 12/16/16, 7:07 AM, David Stein wrote:
>> Robert died last night after a brief illness. He was an extraordinary contributor to this forum and his participation will be greatly missed. Bob went around the world in his passion for opera, but the Met was his special temple. He enjoyed an outstanding career as a librarian and computer specialist. He carved a special niche for himself with his insightful analysis of the Metropolitan broadcasts on Sirius Radio. Bob was a close friend of mine for more than fifty years. His death is an overwhelming loss for me and for all who knew him.
>> Bob, God bless.
>> 
>> ds
>> 
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:35:10 -0500
> From:    E J Michel <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Robert White and Opera-L
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> Many of you may know this, but we all owe the continued existence of
> Opera-L to Robert White. He arranged to HOST Opera-L when we were asked to
> leave CUNY several years ago.
> 
> This is indeed sad and heart breaking news.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> Elizabeth
> 
> E J Michel
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:50:54 -0500
> From:    John Feather <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: My holiday gift to myself. What's yours?
> 
> Three gifts to myself that make me smile:=20
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXPohsCVzhR4
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D5gaEByPCkLc   and=20
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> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D2WVwvpmIRUw
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 15:55:15 +0000
> From:    "ls111553 ." <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Pol Plancon sings Cantique de Noel
> 
> I know it's "off path", but my favorite recording (besides Jussi's) is one,
> also in Swedish, by the "Oscar's Motet Choir", Torsten Nilsson, conductor
> and organist. Since the 1970s, it has been a reference item for audiophiles
> as a good test for a system's ability to resolve voices. But what I love is
> the simple, reverential approach to this hymn, as it would be (ideally)
> sung in a Midnight Mass at a small church.
> The SACD, played on a reasonably good setup, is delightful! I get
> goosebumps when the small choir joins the soprano! The presence is so real
> that you can point to the individual voices.
> Besides, the title track "Cantate Domino" is fantastic!
> 
> https://youtu.be/-TsP0iWgZaQ
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 13, 2016 at 5:06 AM James Camner <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Many good recordings to choose of Cantique de Noel including superb
>> 
>> readings by Caruso, Bjoerling, Thill, Fischer-Dieskau and Pavarotti, but
>> 
>> this is the one I hear in my head as the definitive one:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_ULgI3Q2w0
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> James Camner
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:51:04 -0500
> From:    Rich Lowenthal <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: R.I.P. Robert White
> 
> Very sad news. I learned so much from Robert, both from his posts and from
> private exchanges. Anyone who loves opera owes him a huge debt of gratitude.
> 
> 
> We all share in your loss. May his memory be for a blessing. 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Discussion of opera and related issues
> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Stein
> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:08 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: R.I.P. Robert White
> 
> Robert died last night after a brief illness. He was an extraordinary
> contributor to this forum and his participation will be greatly missed. Bob
> went around the world in his passion for opera, but the Met was his special
> temple. He enjoyed an outstanding career as a librarian and computer
> specialist. He carved a special niche for himself with his insightful
> analysis of the Metropolitan broadcasts on Sirius Radio. Bob was a close
> friend of mine for more than fifty years. His death is an overwhelming loss
> for me and for all who knew him.
> Bob, God bless.
> 
> ds
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:15:20 -0500
> From:    Stephen Charitan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: R.I.P. Robert White
> 
> A big shock...I had the pleasure of meeting him at the Chicago Bolena and
> he was a walking encyclopedia of our art form.  His commentaries on the
> Sirius broadcasts were invaluable - on their way to picking up where the
> wonderful Paul Jackson books on the MET broadcasts left off.
> 
> I'm headed into my mid 60s and within the last few months attended 2
> funerals of friends close to my age...these events coming in close
> proximity leaves you feeling somewhat fragile...does anyone know the cause
> of Bob's passing?
> 
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Rich Lowenthal <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
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>> Very sad news. I learned so much from Robert, both from his posts and from
>> private exchanges. Anyone who loves opera owes him a huge debt of
>> gratitude.
>> 
>> 
>> We all share in your loss. May his memory be for a blessing.
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues
>> [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of David Stein
>> Sent: Friday, December 16, 2016 7:08 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: R.I.P. Robert White
>> 
>> Robert died last night after a brief illness. He was an extraordinary
>> contributor to this forum and his participation will be greatly missed. Bob
>> went around the world in his passion for opera, but the Met was his special
>> temple. He enjoyed an outstanding career as a librarian and computer
>> specialist. He carved a special niche for himself with his insightful
>> analysis of the Metropolitan broadcasts on Sirius Radio. Bob was a close
>> friend of mine for more than fifty years. His death is an overwhelming loss
>> for me and for all who knew him.
>> Bob, God bless.
>> 
>> ds
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> Date:    Fri, 16 Dec 2016 12:22:20 -0500
> From:    E J Michel <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Sirius Schedule: Friday to Sunday. 12/16 to 18
> 
> No one can take Bob's place.
> 
> Here is the schedule for this weekend.
> 
> Will fill in the breach for awhile - but will not have the commentary that
> Bob would have provided.
> 
> If any member would like to join me on this effort - I can do the
> formatting, you provide the comments.
> 
> Best regards,
> Elizabeth
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> 
> FRIDAY December 16th
> 9:00 am - 12:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Strauss:
> Elektra
> 2/27/1999-Levine; Schnaut, Voigt, Schwarz, Pederson, Glassman
> 
> 12:00 pm - 3:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Massenet=
> :
> Werther
> 3/18/1989-Fournet; Wilson, Kuhlmann, Upshaw, Weikl
> 
> 3:00 pm - 6:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Puccini:
> Manon Lescaut
> 12/10/1949-Antonicelli; Kirsten, Bj=C3=B6rling, Valdengo, Baccaloni
> 
> 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Strauss:
> Der Rosenkavalier
> 3/22/1958-Rudolf; Stevens, Steber, Edelmann, Hurley, Herbert
> 
> Fri Dec 16 9:00 pm - Sat Dec 17 12:00 am
> <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Mozart: Don Giovanni
> 2/2/1991-Levine; Hampson, Studer, Plishka, Schuman, Blochwitz, Upshaw
> 
> 12:00 am - 3:00 am <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Bizet:
> Carmen
> 3/10/1973-Lewis; Horne, McCracken, Amara, Krause
> -----------------------------
> 
> SATURDAY December 17th
> 6:00 am - 9:00 am <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Mozart:
> Idomeneo
> 1/26/2002-Levine; Domingo, Hong, Deshorties, von Otter, Oswald
> 9:00 am - 12:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Gluck:
> Orfeo ed Euridice
> 4/9/1955-Monteux; Stevens, G=C3=BCden, Hurley
> 
> 1:00 pm - 5:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> R.
> Strauss: Salome (LIVE FROM THE MET)
> Debus; Racette, Siegel, Lucic, Herrera, K. Wang
> 
> 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Verdi: I
> Vespri Siciliani
> 4/12/1975-Levine; Niska, Lewis, Milnes, Plishka
> 
> Sat Dec 17 9:00 pm - Sun Dec 18 1:00 am
> <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Wagner: Parsifal
> 4/17/1982-Levine; Hofmann, Dunn, Stewart, Hines, Meredith
> -----------------------------
> 
> SUNDAY December 18th
> 
> 6:00 am - 9:00 am <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Puccini:
> Manon Lescaut
> 12/10/1949-Antonicelli; Kirsten, Bj=C3=B6rling, Valdengo, Baccaloni
> 9:00 am - 12:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Smetana:
> The Bartered Bride
> 12/2/1978-Levine; Stratas, Gedda, Talvela, Vickers
> 
> 12:00 pm - 3:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Donizett=
> i:
> Don Pasquale
> 3/22/1980-Rescigno; Trimarchi, Peters, Rendall, Duesing
> 3:00 pm - 6:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Strauss:
> Elektra
> 2/27/1999-Levine; Schnaut, Voigt, Schwarz, Pederson, Glassman
> 
> 6:00 pm - 9:00 pm <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> Schoenber=
> g:
> Moses und Aron
> 12/20/2003-Levine; Tomlinson, Langridge
> Sun Dec 18 9:00 pm - Mon Dec 19 12:00 am
> <http://www.siriusxm.com/metropolitanopera#add> THE MET ON RECORD:
> Humperdinck: Hansel and Gretel (1947)
> Rudolf; Stevens, Conner, Votipka, Turner, Brownlee
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