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Subject: Re: Amplification in the Opera House (formerly RE: SALOME opening night MET 5 December)
From: "Takis Pavl." <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Sat, 10 Dec 2016 07:35:38 +0000
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Thanks for that Isaac. Suddenly, wishing to hear opera as it was conceived, i.e. unamplified, made me a purist. 

It's a slippery slope if we start allowing amplification in opera. Audiences get used to the electronic, amplified sound and then, why not use a bit of autotune to correct any minor intonation problems and make it sound like the studio recording?  

Check out what happened to Broadway musicals. Here's an interesting article from the '80s complaining about the amplification in that musical genre. There was a day when the singers there had to sing over an orchestra too. 
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1988-09-15/features/8801300633_1_amplification-play-s-director-royale-theater
Today, I doubt there is any musical that's being performed unamplified. 

Jon claims it depends on the opera house. In most opera houses that I've heard off-stage singing there was no problem hearing this effect. Yes the voice sounded less and I bet in this Salome Johanaan would have sounded weaker in that hole. But that's to be expected, the composer knew that. In Butterfly, when she arrives they also start from a distance. Now if they start performing opera in huge venues or building bigger opera houses, it goes against the art form. I suspect most operas were composed for theatres smaller than the MET so if we start building opera houses to get more people in rather than serve the art form, we're doing something wrong. 

Takis


      From: Isaac Alan <[log in to unmask]>
 To: [log in to unmask] 
 Sent: Saturday, 10 December 2016, 1:15
 Subject: Re: Amplification in the Opera House (formerly RE: SALOME opening night MET 5 December)
   
Purism is probably a dangerous word to use, there are very few examples of purity, but there is a lot of examples of tradition and preserved crafts. Opera is an art form that glorifies the techniques of singing and vocal projection, and also of sustained human effort to engage with and master the natural elements and forces.


Regards,

Isaac Alan



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From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Friday, 9 December 2016 4:24 PM
To: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Amplification in the Opera House (formerly RE: SALOME opening night MET 5 December)

In terms of offstage singing, it HAS to depend on the acoustics of the particular house. If
things can be heard to desired effect without amplification, great. If they can't, amplify. As far
as the "it wasn't written to be amplified" argument, again, one has to look at the acoustics
and size of any given house today as opposed to the premiere.

Amplification does NOT mean it has to go booming into the house. Sometimes the sound just
needs a bit more presence - and speakers can be placed in backstage locations so that the
sound still comes from offstage. It's not rocket science, and it's NOT going against the
intention of the composer, when certainly the composer meant for the music to be heard
(yes?) even if the effect was for it to sound further away.

Sometimes "purism" is really a destructive thing, getting in the way of its own best interests.

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