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Subject: Salome
From: Peter Bloch <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Wed, 30 Nov 2016 16:22:13 -0500
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Does anyone know why the Salome Dress Rehearsal on Friday was suddenly closed to outsiders?

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> On Nov 29, 2016, at 9:25 PM, OPERA-L automatic digest system <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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> Topics in this special issue:
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>  1. TRAVIATA from Vienna (delayed) tonight
>  2. John McCormack - Adeste Fideles, now more than ever (2)
>  3. Josef Schmidt (formerly, OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza) (2)
>  4. Castro, etc. and his good side.
>  5. John Charles Thomas (was Josef Schmidt, was OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
>  6. Cuba with apologies
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:20:43 -0800
> From:    Maxwell Paley <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: TRAVIATA from Vienna (delayed) tonight
> 
> This should only make a difference to people with 4K receivers and TVs, who w=
> ill now get the higher res image.  If your receiver and TV are standard HD, t=
> he signal will be downsampled at the back end (satellite, cable or computer)=
> to match your equipment.  The same will apply to recording.
> 
> Max Paley
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On Nov 29, 2016, at 12:29, Roger Bell <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> Greetings
>> The "Traviata" relay and future relays will apparently be in 4K or HD+ or w=
> hatever you recognise as the new enhanced HD level.  See link below. Who kno=
> ws how that will affect reception and /or recording ? If you do have a clue.=
> please let us all know.http://slippedisc.com/2016/11/watch-viennas-new-hdr-=
> better-than-the-met/
>> =20
>> RegardsRoger D BellLancashireEngland      From: E J Michel <ejmichel@GMAIL=
> .COM>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016, 18:49
>> Subject: TRAVIATA from Vienna (delayed) tonight
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>> http://www.staatsoperlive.com/en/live/?page=3D1
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>> 17.90 monthly ticket
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>> Keenlyside
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> ------------------------------
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 13:53:44 -0800
> From:    James Camner <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: John McCormack - Adeste Fideles, now more than ever
> 
> It's over 90 years old, but have we ever needed it more?
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YN2XY6AjChg
> 
> Some may prefer  his 1915 recording -- more than 100 years old! (it sounds
> like Reinald Warrenrath is chiming in at the end) both recordings are
> sublime.
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwGo1thfxSk
> 
> You decide
> 
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> James Camner
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 17:19:50 -0500
> From:    Richard Maynard Wilson <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: John McCormack - Adeste Fideles, now more than ever
> 
> Thanks for the links. However, the following better reflects my current
> sentiments:
> 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DIUZEtVbJT5c
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 22:22:10 +0000
> From:    Isaac Alan <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Josef Schmidt (formerly, OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
> 
> Thank you Willian Kasimer, it may be news to you that not everything is abo=
> ut you or your opinions.
> 
> I was not referring to you or anything that you might have written. I hadn'=
> t even read your comments on the subject.
> 
> 
> As for comprehending  the English language,  my statement [quote]"Anyone wh=
> o thinks that Mario Lanza couldn't sing opera is seriously impaired in one =
> way or another."[unquote] is directed to just that, "anyone" not as you hav=
> e interpreted it "someone" and specifically YOU.
> 
> 
> Mario Lanza did sing Pinkerton in Madame Butterfly, and he sang many operat=
> ic arias on stage during concerts, I only have English as my native languag=
> e, but I feel certain that this constitutes singing opera, if not establish=
> ing him as an opera singer.
> 
> 
> Please try to remember Mr Kasimer, that you are not the centre of the unive=
> rse, and you do not need to be rude and uncouth in your discussions or repl=
> ies on Opera-l.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Isaac Alan
> 
> ________________________________
> From: william kasimer <[log in to unmask]>
> Sent: Tuesday, 29 November 2016 2:56 PM
> To: Isaac Alan
> Subject: Re: Josef Schmidt (formerly, OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
> 
>> On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 07:47:24 +0000, Isaac Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> Anyone who thinks that Mario Lanza couldn't sing opera is seriously impair=
> ed in one way
> or another.
> 
> No one, certainly not I, claimed that he "couldn't".  The point is - he did=
> n't.
> 
> The only "impairment" seems to be your inability to comprehend written Engl=
> ish.
> 
> Bill
> 
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 19:54:03 -0500
> From:    "Max D. Winter" <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Castro, etc. and his good side.
> 
> "I did not like the way Castro got rid of bad eggs by letting them emigra=
> te en masse at one=20
> point to the U.S.A. but I don't see him overall as a bad egg. Quite the c=
> ontrary.  If=20
> the two most important things in a country are its educational system and=
> its health care=20
> system (for all, not just the well-heeled)..."
> 
> And let's not forget, Hitler had his good side, too.  He loved dogs and g=
> ot all teary over little=20
> Aryan children.  And he had a sensitive artist's soul.  That's how we sho=
> uld remember him.=20=20
> Holocaust, schmolocaust.=20
> 
> AND he made the trains run on time.  And provided the German people with =
> great health=20
> care (so long as you weren't a Jew).  And he restored a sense of national=
> pride in Das Volk.=20=20
> 
> "Castro deserves praise for making his country the envy of the world."
> 
> Which is why so many flocked to Cuba for its health care, educational sys=
> tem and enviable=20
> living conditions.  Not to mention the freedom and security its citizens =
> enjoyed.
> 
> You know, some people are such moral idiots that they really should not b=
> e let out without=20
> adult supervision.
> 
> Ding dong, the witch is dead.=20=20
> 
> MDW
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:42:40 -0500
> From:    donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Josef Schmidt (formerly, OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
> 
> 55 perfomances between 1934 and 1943 at the Met, may not be an
> impressive amount, but it adds up to more than a number of "celebrity
> appearances in opera to wow the crowds".  My uncle took me to a 1942
> matinee of AIDA not for Thomas's Amonasro,  but for the Amneris of Bruna
> Castagna.  I remember nothing about either of them, having been obsessed
> at the time with Wagner whom he didn't particularly care for. It was his
> unforgettable notion that Flagstad had fled to Norway in 1941 with the
> expectation that if Germany won the war, her presence there would be
> more compatible and rewarding than it would be in New York.
> 
> dtmk
> 
> dtmk
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 2:47 AM, Isaac Alan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> 
>> The truth, I fancy, is here below by Jon Goldberg.
>> 
>> In my own opinion, there are many ways to judge a tenor, and a few more
>> ways to judge an operatic tenor, however, none of these should include the
>> ability to sing at the two extremes of the possible vocal range. If you
>> listen to Schmidt's recording of Nessun Dorma, it is clear that he was
>> struggling with the repeat of those opening two words, I doubt that he had
>> anything tonally viable below those four notes.  on the other hand....There
>> is no other....Sorry I had a sudden vision of  Tevye.
>> 
>> 
>> On the other hand, he quite obviously had no problem above the stave if
>> you consider his recording of the postillion aria. His Italian diction left
>> a lot to be desired, and he sometimes crooned or used excessive portamento
>> to move up. However, these things can be forgiven as the uncorrected faults
>> of a young singer, who was a microphone radio star
>> 
>> before, and in place of, valuable stage experience.  That he was an opera
>> singer is without question, that he possessed a beautiful and exciting
>> voice is also without question; that he had musicianship, and could sing
>> with great style and taste is self evident.
>> 
>> 
>> Anyone who thinks that Mario Lanza couldn't sing opera is seriously
>> impaired in one way or another.
>> 
>> J C Thomas was great to listen to, had a very exciting and warm sound, but
>> his intonation was varied and he was a lazy singer to my mind, a great
>> showman, hardly up to anything more than a celebrity appearance in opera to
>> wow the crowds.
>> 
>> Nelson Ackerman Eddy I would be cautious of judging, he had real talent,
>> and he could sell a song like only a handful. I wouldn't mind betting that
>> in his prime he was up to just about anything vocally.
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Isaac Alan
>> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <[log in to unmask]>
>> on behalf of Jon Goldberg <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sent: Saturday, 26 November 2016 3:06 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: Josef Schmidt (formerly, OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
>> 
>> I'm afraid that the case is not quite closed, Ray - sorry 'bout that.
>> Exhibit C: There are NO
>> written high C's in "Di Quella Pira," therefore ANY tenor that sings them
>> is interpolating them.
>> Doesn't matter how many he sings - they're ALL interpolated.
>> 
>> Case closed. ;-)
>> 
>> (Also, may it please the court, he sings 3 high C's, one of them in a
>> place not usually heard.
>> But the cabaletta is not repeated. Any tenor singing the aria as
>> traditionally done, but *with*
>> the repeat, also sings 3 C's. And the Schmidt recording shortens the
>> musical rideout, so the
>> last high C is not held as long as many tenors might do in context of the
>> opera itself. So I'm
>> not sure what the big deal is, lol.)
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, 25 Nov 2016 19:48:45 -0500, RAYMOND GOUIN <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> The silliest message in this string is the one in which it was claimed
>> that Josef Schmidt was
>> not an opera singer.  Does anyone know of any other tenor who would
>> INTERPOLATE a high C
>> in "Di quella pira"?  Case closed [ except for any J-A who wants to
>> challenge the foregoing.  :)
>> ].
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 21:20:44 -0500
> From:    william kasimer <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: John Charles Thomas (was Josef Schmidt, was OPERA/Lanza/Schmanza)
> 
> On Tue, 29 Nov 2016 20:42:40 -0500, donald kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote=
> :
> 
>> 55 perfomances between 1934 and 1943 at the Met, may not be an
>> impressive amount, but it adds up to more than a number of "celebrity
>> appearances in opera to wow the crowds".=20=20
> 
> Not to mention Thomas' pre-Met operatic career, in San Francisco and Chic=
> ago, and at Covent=20
> Garden and La Monnaie.
> 
> Bill
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> Date:    Tue, 29 Nov 2016 21:25:08 -0500
> From:    R PRADA <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Cuba with apologies
> 
>> I just read a long article in Spanish=20
> Among other things i said that Fidel=E2=80=99s new worth is 90 million =
> dollars. He came from a family that had a big plantation, but  he grew =
> to be one of the richest dictators in th world. That was=E2=80=99t for =
> sugar.=20
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> I saw the article in Spanish line, but the original comes form a big =
> Forbes piece on him.
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> RP
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