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Subject: Re: Ashes-Scatterer Apologies in Letter to Gelb
From: donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:donald kane <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Fri, 4 Nov 2016 22:38:20 -0400
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Could it be said that the orchestra members who witnessed
the act, overreacted, and should have simply asked for the
pit to be vacuumed during intermission?   Has there ever been
a case involving the receipt or distribution of mysterious
powders, in which they turned out to be harmful?

dtmk


On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Carol Fischer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> I was at the performance last Saturday. The Met did nothing wrong. It is my
> understanding that Mr. Kaiser left at the second intermission immediately
> after distributing his friend's ashes in the orchestra pit, so he could not
> have been questioned. The fact that he left when he did, in fact, suggests
> to me that he was aware that what he was doing was wrong.
>
> In any event, there would have been no way to immediately test the powder
> to determine what it was. Indeed, even if immediate confirmation was
> possible, to my mind it would have been very wrong to expect the conductor
> and orchestra to carry on after human remains had been dumped into their
> work space.
>
> I also think the Met was right not to tell the audience that a mysterious
> white substance had been found in the pit. Many people might have been hurt
> in the resulting panic. It was better simply to let us calmly file out
> thinking that part of the scenery had malfunctioned.
>
> Carol F.
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 4, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Neil Mason <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > I have been following this thread with interest and amazement from my
> home
> > in Australia.
> >
> > Maybe it's where I live that causes me to think that the inconvenience
> > suffered by patrons is as much caused by the action of the Met management
> > in cancelling the rest if the performance as anything else.  It seems to
> me
> > that it would have been a comparatively simple matter to find out from
> the
> > "perpetrator" what he had thrown; he would have detailed what it was and
> > confirmation that it was ashes would be easy.
> >
> > I know that all of the above is much easier to say than to put into
> > practice.  But gee whizz what an over-reaction.
> >
> > Neil M (reaching for the safety headgear)
> >
> >
> > On 05/11/16 06:48, tom ponti wrote:
> >
> >> Of course we all, especially me, have done things in our life times that
> >> we regret but nothing as crazy or inconsiderate as what this guy did. To
> >> totally excuse or make excuses for his action is irresponsible. I
> certainly
> >> do not want the guy's life destroyed but he should pay some sort of
> price
> >> for his ridiculous action. Perhaps he needs mental help? As I think
> someone
> >> else said, by letting this guy get away with what he did, could
> encourage
> >> someone to do something similar. I hope not!
> >>
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: Discussion of opera and related issues <
> [log in to unmask]>
> >> on behalf of Idia Legray <[log in to unmask]>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 04, 2016 4:35 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: [OPERA-L] Ashes-Scatterer Apologies in Letter to Gelb
> >>
> >> Mr. Harrison:
> >> I agree with you.
> >> I WAS one of the members in the audience that day and at first I also
> >> became disgruntled at the thoughtlessness of the act.
> >> And then I read Mr. Kaiser's letter to the Met and Gelb's very fair and
> >> appropriate response, and my attitude changed completely.  In fact, my
> >> heart goes out to him.
> >>
> >> Unless we all can claim to never having done a thoughtless act in our
> >> lives
> >> and regretting it, I believe if the Met can, we too should also feel
> very
> >> sorry
> >> for him, cut him a break -- believe me he's suffering plenty from this
> >> and it
> >> will haunt him for the rest of his life -- and just move on.
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