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Subject: Re: Juntwait's bad pronunciation
From: DK Conn <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:DK Conn <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Sat, 3 May 2014 13:07:32 -0400

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To nitpick, Rundfunk is a masculine noun, hence it is *der* Bayerischer
Rundfunk.  But I agree that it is enjoyable to hear a host who is at ease in
different languages.  Just recently I heard a Dutch host on NTR Radio 4
switching absolutely seamlessly from Dutch to English and French.  Hosts on
the various German public broadcasting stations (not just BR) often switch
to English or other languages during interviews.

Juntwait's pronunciation flaws don't bother me as much as her and co-host
Ira Siff's irritatingly giggly mannerisms and habit of using a rising
inflection so that statements sound like annoying as Valley
speak.  Their on-air personalities sometimes degenerate to where they sound
like teenagers, and I do not mean that in a complimentary way.

I do think that singers should be held to a higher standard of
pronunciation.  But as someone else pointed out, diction is just as
important.  I have heard operas in English translation where I had no idea
what was being said and needed the surtitles--and operas sung in German with
diction so clear no titles or libretto were needed.

As for that New England accent (very marked to California ears), I am good
friends with someone from Massachusetts who consistently says "idee-r" for
"idea", and it doesn't matter where in the sentence the word appears.


On Sat, 3 May 2014 10:14:53 -0400, Donald Kane <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>I am in favor of overlooking idiosyncracy in matters of
>pronunciation.   There's something kind of robotic
>about a person switching from one perfect accent to another
>and back again.  When Milton Cross used to try it he would
>sound pompous and overemphatic but quite well aware of it.
>Schoolmarmish I guess, but lovable.
>Who remembers that awesome German lady on das
>Baierische Rundfunk who could deliver all the details of an
>upcoming performance from Bayreuth in at least four
>impeccably accented languages: German, English, French, and
>Italian, I believe, whilst retaining something of her own
>Teutonic personality in each?  It was a highlight of those
>broadcasts, and I always felt cheated if someone made a tape
>and didn't keep all of her.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Discussion of opera and related issues
>[mailto:[log in to unmask]]On Behalf Of Christopher
>Sent: Friday, May 02, 2014 11:55 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: Juntwait's bad pronunciation
> That "r" usually pops up when the word ending with the
>vowel is immediately followed by a word beginning with
>another vowel; some New Englanders will insert an
>intervocalic "r" in-between.  This is why people made fun of
>John F. Kennedy for allegedly pronouncing "Cuba" as
>"Cuber" - but that actually happened in phrases like "Cuba
>is ....", which would come out as "Cuber is ....".
>I'm guessing that the "Normer" another list member recalled
>happened in a similar sentence, something like "Norma is a
>bel canto masterpiece" emerging as "Normer is a bel canto
>Christopher Weimer
>Date:    Fri, 2 May 2014 14:46:18 -0400
>From:    Mike Hetsko <[log in to unmask]>
>Subject: Re: Juntwait's bad pronunciation
>I have heard that "r" thing before. I can't remember where
>though.  Maine???=

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