See below.
Frankly, I would have preferred to be called "indehiscent fruit" and
to have received an e-coupon for a spa treatment from Amy. However,
she obviously has a limited vocabulary and no imagination to go along
with her inability to tolerate frustration.
Seriously... If someone like this isn't banned from OPERA-L, there can
be no moderator.
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Amy <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: June 29, 2009 4:48:24 PM GMT-04:00
> To: Victoria Bigelow <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Shut up
>
> Go get fucked, dried up cunt.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 29, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Victoria Bigelow <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>> This is not about snobbery or insensitivity, it is about relevance.
>> This is a listserv for discussing opera: performances, singers,
>> etc. Comparing this extended tribute to Michael Jackon on OPERA-L
>> to a discussion about Mario Lanza, who was an incredible spinto
>> tenor is ludicrous. Had Michael ever taken up singing Handel or
>> other countertenor rep, it would be another story.
>> There is another listserv called VocaLIST if you want to talk about
>> the strengths and weaknesses of Michael Jackson's singing voice.
>>
>> On Jun 29, 2009, at 1:06 PM, Clarissa Cheer wrote:
>>
>>> Oh yes tut! tut! Its all about snobbery! When I was a teen my
>>> parents
>>> grabbed the radio when I was listening to Frank Sinatra and told
>>> me turn off
>>> that rubbish. I was brought up to love classical music, but it was
>>> Mario
>>> Lanza who brought opera into my life, he was my idol, and he sang
>>> pop music
>>> as well as opera. I slow danced to Mona Lisa and Unforgettable by
>>> Nat King
>>> Cole, listened to Mel Tome, adored Louis Armstrong, Peggy Lee and
>>> joined a
>>> Jazz club. Heard Myra Hess at the Royal Albert Hall proms, enjoyed
>>> concerts
>>> with all the great singers including Tom Jones at the Greek
>>> theatre in LA.
>>> As for Michael Jackson he was about mainly HAPPY music, my kids
>>> loved him
>>> like the Beetles, like him or not, he was a personality and a
>>> character. I'm
>>> not too old to enjoy the "Moon Walk" so lighten up folks we will
>>> all be dust
>>> one day and it won't matter a dry fig!
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>> Clarissa
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 6/29/09 9:14 AM, "Tim Oldroyd" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> I am reminded of the hand wringing and the tut tutting, years
>>>> and years
>>>> ago (i think the 70s) when Opera News ran a cover with Joan
>>>> Sutherland in
>>>> profile on the left and Barbra Streisand on the right. Mr.
>>>> Indignant of....
>>>> and Miss Outraged of.... wrote in to say how dare they compare
>>>> the two -
>>>> yadayadayada.
>>>>
>>>> Sutherland's note to Opera News was published in which she
>>>> correctly stated
>>>> that Streisand was a great singer and she was proud to share the
>>>> cover
>>>> with her.
>>>>
>>>> I wonder what he list is going to make of Rufus Wainright when he
>>>> finally
>>>> gets his opera finished - PLENTY to faint about there !
>>>>
>>>> Tim
>>>>
>>>> In a message dated 29/06/2009 13:36:05 GMT Daylight Time,
>>>> [log in to unmask] writes:
>>>>
>>>> And that's exactly what's wrong with this whole episode.
>>>>
>>>> Because YOU don't care about him, either dead or alive, no one
>>>> should care about him, dead or alive.
>>>>
>>>> The truth is I don't much care about him either, but I have enough
>>>> respect for those who do that I'm more than willing to let them
>>>> have
>>>> their day.
>>>>
>>>> And don't give me the "it's not opera" crap again. You do the
>>>> same
>>>> thing over Nazi posts or whatever else it is that YOU don't
>>>> like. We
>>>> are to roll over and play dead. Not while I'm alive!
>>>>
>>>> Yes, I shall continue as long as the censors try to censor.
>>>>
>>>> It's fascinating to watch these threads unfold. It is all knee
>>>> jerk reaction and it's always about the "me". There is some
>>>> "me" in all of us, but this is nothing more than abuse of the
>>>> privilege.
>>>>
>>>> Yet no one complains when we discuss other pop singers, Broadway
>>>> and
>>>> West End show tunes and lots of other topics that cannot in any
>>>> way be
>>>> considered "opera" or opera related.. I've probably written
>>>> about Mahalia
>>>> Jackson
>>>> ten times over the years, and I've never had a murmur of a
>>>> complaint. I
>>>> guess
>>>> it depends upon which "Jackson" eh? She was a good woman, and
>>>> he, well
>>>> he was what he was and that gets in the way! Doesn't it?
>>>>
>>>> And to the genius who told me privately to leave opera-l, note,
>>>> I'm still
>>>> here
>>>> and I shall continue to be unless those who are actually
>>>> moderators tell
>>>> me
>>>> otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Next!
>>>>
>>>> Bob
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Neville Sumpter<mailto:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>> Agree with you 100 per cent ! I could not care less about him
>>>> either dead
>>>> or
>>>> alive!
>>>> Neville in England
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Frank Hartin"
>>>> <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> To: <[log in to unmask]<mailto:OPERA-
>>>> [log in to unmask]>>
>>>> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 12:55 PM
>>>> Subject: SHUT UP ABOUT MICHAEL JACKSON--THIS IS OPERA-L
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Enough!!
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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