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Subject: Re: Tucker Sings Wagner- Prize Song- 1971-Youtube
From: Tom Wikman <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Mon, 30 Mar 2009 11:29:33 -0700
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I think a lot of Jewish artists
were wary of certain aspects of
post WWII Germanic culture.

They had seen a lot of German
artists with pretty odious
attitudes get cleared by the 
tribunals and gladly welcomed
back on the world's stages.

Some, like George London, sang
a lot in that world, and came
to a comfortable accommodation 
with it.  Even Tucker guested
in Vienna.

But I can imagine an artist
not wanting "to go there,"
either in a physical or artistic
way.

Too bad, as there was a long period
of time when many of the greatest
voices emerged from Jewish throats.

And, the almost universal spread
of Yiddish gave them a Germanic
tongue to work with.

Just like with the various Bavarian
dialects, what has to be learned is
the proper pronunciation of Theater
German.  What all the Germanic 
languages (Scandinavian tongues,
Yiddish, various German, Swiss and
Austrian dialects) have is so much
more an important quality, like
sentence structure, vocabulary etc.

It wouldn't have taken Tucker very
long at all to master German.  Sherrill
Milnes relates how Tucker and Caballe
communicated, sharing no common language.
She spoke in German and he spoke in 
Yiddish, and Milnes said, "They got on
like a house afire."

Many of the greatest pre-WWII Wagnerians
were Jewish, Schorr, Kipnis, etc.  And
practically all Wagnerians had a Germanic
linguistic base.  It's not strange, after
all, most Spaniards sing the Italian rep. 

Anway, for Tucker it remained a "road not
taken."  For even had he conquered the
Wagnerian rep, it perhaps would have
conflicted with his enormous stature in
the Italian operas.  It was amazing
enough that he could go from Cosi to
Aida.  He could sing Alvaro and turn 
around and sing the Duke in Rigoletto.
How much more flexible can you get?

Never the less, a wonderful clip, very
tantalizing in its hints of what might
have been.

Tom



--- On Mon, 3/30/09, Al **** <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Al **** <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Tucker Sings Wagner- Prize Song- 1971-Youtube
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Monday, March 30, 2009, 5:45 AM
> I don't hear "vinegary" There is a certain
> lack of confidence, and that is so unusual given that an
> abundance of confidence is/was always so evident in whatever
> Tucker sang. I would say that this recording (which seems to
> have been recorded in the open air) was something of a
> personal test for Tucker, to see just how well he would go
> in the rep'.
> 
> Don't let us forget that he was no spring chicken when
> he sang this, and he not only had a long history of avoiding
> this rep', who knows what inner feelings the experience
> stirred up within him, as well as singing in the German
> language, which, although it is not well pronounced,  is
> hardly "atrocious," as Alex claims.
> 
> I would love to have heard him trying  "In Fernum
> Land".
> 
> 
> Regards,  Richard 
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > Date: Sun, 29 Mar 2009 08:17:13 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Tucker Sings Wagner- Prize Song-
> 1971-Youtube
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > 
> > His tone is "vinegary" and his German is
> atrocious. Sorry, the Met's house tenor from the 60s
> really shouldn't have done this.  
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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