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Subject: Re: Have some respect ,was Where was Gelb ?
From: David L Treybig <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Sun, 23 Nov 2008 18:31:22 -0500
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Indeed.   As Maria Callas is recorded saying in an interview:    "What am I? 
A machine for singing?   No!"

Dave Treybig
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tony Converse" <[log in to unmask]>
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Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: Have some respect ,was Where was Gelb ?


> It seems likely to me that at least some Listers either have been 
> performers or at least know some performers.
>
> Have some respect for what it takes to get out there and do any major 
> role in any opera.
>
> This attitude posted by many that they are "affronted" or "insulted" by  a 
> major singer running aground in a particular instance is arrogant 
> bullshit.
>
> Who the hell do you think you are ?  Do you think the artists who  perform 
> for you are some sort of wind up toys ?
> Do you think they are not more agonized than you if they fail in the 
> pinch ?
>
> T
>
> tony converse
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> On Nov 23, 2008, at 5:48 AM, Roberta Prada wrote:
>
> In the old days people threw things and booed. And performers were a lot
> better. I do not mean to suggest that booing does the trick, but I  think 
> it
> is Ok for people to get exercised about this. Anybody who was not there
> would not know, I suppose, that this was not merely an "off night" for
> Heppner. This was like watching a gymnast finish a meet with a broken 
> ankle.
>
> Somebody should have benched the guy. He was hurting himself. People  will
> soldier on in survival mode sometimes, but they are doing themselves 
> harm,
> and this sounded like serious damage happening. If not Gelb, then  Levine, 
> if
> not either then whoever was in their stead.
>
>  Some of the old Italians opined that if our audiences were more 
> forthright
> with their opinions, less mediocrity would be foisted on them.
>
> I still want to know who the singers were of Spades in the golden era.  I 
> am
> betting they were lyric voices. If the part was right for Freni, why
> Guleghina? If a Lemishev sang the tenor, then why a Wagnerian?
>
> RP
>
>> I believe someone in this group put it most accurately:
>>
>> "One of the worst things about opera -is its audiences."
>
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