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Subject: Re: iTunes and "the gap."
From: Theodore Weis <[log in to unmask]>
Reply-To:Theodore Weis <[log in to unmask]>
Date:Tue, 29 Mar 2005 11:39:06 -0700

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I recently purchased a rather expensive CD player with a 40 gig storage
capacity.  I recorded an opera and discovered the "click-gap" problem.
I thought this must be a defect, and the dealer promptly replaced the
unit for me. He had never encountered the issue before.  The new unit
was the same. To prove a point, I recorded the same opera on my
computer using iTunes, and lo, no gap.

However, close listening revealed that the "solution" iTunes uses
simply covers up the problem by joining the gapped segments.  The
intervening music, perhaps a second or less, is just missing, and the
click is still audible.  This is not usually noticeable even in opera
recordings, because the "cue" marks usually occur at the end of arias
or ensembles where the music is either quiet or on a sustained note.
There are many instances, however, when it is obvious, especially if
you know the music well.

Ted Weis
> Not even if you join the tracks in iTunes before you upload them to the
> iPod? Load the CD into your computer, select the tracks you want to
> join,
> join them, import the resulting big track into your library, download
> to
> iTunes. You do lose the track marks---an act of an opera would be one
> big
> track---but you also shouldn't end up with gaps on the iPod.
> Jeffery
> On Tue, 29 Mar 2005 07:21:04 -0800, Bill McNair <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>> Unfortunately, there is nothing you can do to get rid
>> of the gap, between songs, on an iPod. This is a
>> feature all of us have wanted for years, but for some
>> reason Apple either hasn't been able to give it to us,
>> or it is not technically possible to do with an iPod.
>> The setting mentioned does work in iTunes, but it has
>> no effect on the iPod.
>> And, just so you all know, I am a Forum Moderator with
>>, so if you have any questions about
>> the iPod, or digital music, you can visit the site, or
>> send me a message, and I will be happy to help you
>> out.
>> Bill
>> Forum Moderator
> --------------------------
> Date:    Tue, 29 Mar 2005 17:24:13 +0000
> From:    [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Gapless mp3 playback from a portable mp3 player
> For those of you concerned with the audible gap between tracks when
> you listen to operas on your portable mp3 players, there is one player
> which has successfully addressed the problem: the Rio Karma 20.  It
> sells for a fraction of the price of an equivalently-sized Ipod (about
> $210 from and may prove a good entry level player for
> beginners.
> Here is a good discussion of gapless playback:
> Bill Heron

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