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Subject: Re: Walkure query
From: Dennis Ryan <[log in to unmask]>
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Date:Thu, 21 Oct 2004 22:07:53 EDT

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       Hi, All!
       Frank Drake's post re Erda and the Valkyries raises all sorts of
interesting issues.  For example:
       1.  Could Brunhilde be the daughter of Wotan and Erda, but only a HALF
sister to the other Valkyries?
       2.  If Erda is the mother of ALL the Valkyries, for goodness' sake,
WHY?  The fact that Erda bears Wotan children would seem to imply that either 1)
her "pecking order" among the Teutonic deities does not give her sufficient
clout to refuse Wotan's command that she bear him children; or 2) even though
"foreseer of the future" she might be,  she does not necessarily view the
begetting of the Valkyries as an entirely futile ploy in terms of Wotan's great
inspiration to defend Valhalla and beget a "free agent" who might redeem the
world.  If the Valkyries were created for the express purpose of "rescuing" the
souls of fallen warriors for the defense of Valhalla, where is Erda's warning
that THIS defense is also useless?
       3.  When summoned by Wotan in "Siegfried," Erda does not appear to
recognize him.  Why not, since they have had at least one child together and
probably have had nine?  Or is her attitude merely that, since the downfall of the
Gods is certain, IT SIMPLY DOESN'T MATTER who is disturbing her sleep and she
doesn't really CARE, and would he please just go away?
       4.  In "Siegfried," Erda appears AMAZED at all the events that have
taken place during her slumber.  Why would she be surprised, having foreseen it
all?  Is she merely feigning surprise?  Or HASN'T she, in fact, foreseen it
       5.  In "Siegfried," Erda continually evades Wotan's questions by
replying, "Ask Brunhilde," or "Ask the Norns."  Is it POSSIBLE that she, herself,
does not know the answers?   If we assume that she doesn't know the answers,
how did she know in "Das Rheingold" that the ring was bad karma?  And if we
assume that she does know the answers, isn't it pretty clear that the purpose of
her evasion is that these are answers that Wotan must discover for himself?
       I'll be most interested in responses and comments from other heads
that know far more about these issues than I.
       Dennis Ryan

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